He won't hold up through November and will get slaughtered in the debates. You'll see.

The only clear fact so far in this election is that it's the same as most others. We don't have a damn clue to what is going to happen. I hope Obama wins, obviously there's some Romney supporters in this thread and opinions are mixed and divided. There's really not much reason to debate this any further is there guys? The point is, it could turn either way in a heart beat, and NOBODY knows how, in what way, how hard, how fast, and nobody can say who will win yet, and the answer will probably be even less clear on election day, or even half way through the ballot count. So what more can we say than "Good Luck Obama, Good Luck Romney, I hope my guy wins but only the future knows."

Yeah, whichs means that certainly when somebody receives health care, it uses up some of your tax money and when YOU receive health care, it uses up - wait for it, waiiit for it ! - SOMEBODY ELSE's tax money !! That's called solidarity: we all live in the same country, we all share the expenses and the benefits. That's just common sense.

And what makes you believe that France want what you have?? Don't make me laugh, America is the first promoter of "fair trade"... while enforcing strict protectionist rules to save its own industry and agriculture. The day you (the USA) will play along the rules of the book you mainly wrote, we'll talk again. And NEVER forget that Europe is in that shape now because some american-based notation agencies (S&P, etc...) decided to downgrade them when they have for the most part been responsible for it!!! Don't ever forget that Goldman Sachs was consulted by Greece's government (or S&P? one of these two) about some high risk stock market gamble and that, despite the fact that at that time Greece wasn't in a better economic shape, the agencies greenlighted them... only to stab them in the back a couple of years later.

Like MANY american (happily not everybody), you demonstrate in your posts that you have no clue of what socialism is. For you "historians", "socialism" is an insult thrown in the political debate, as much as a Godwin point, and a scarecrown much like "shut up kids, or the evil socialist will come and collectivize your toys!!". That's just plain ridiculous. I see that MacCarthysm is still alive and kicking in the USA.

I'm glad you would never leave the USA for France, because you would obviously be very disappointed by the disturbing lack of russian tanks, knife-between-the-teeth bolsheviks and unending queues before empty shops in the streets!
I, for one, know that America has so far nothing for me and that Japan and France reward the hard-working-me better than your country would.

I think Obama has the clear edge because he did at least enough, and Romney was never the GOP's first pick. As for me, I'll vote Obama, but only because I think the Republicans have become a bunch of dim-witted, god fearing hillbillies.

Of course it means that. What else could he possibly mean? What else is going on in the United States right now that is seen by Republicans as a "threat" to the institution of marriage? Heterosexual infidelity? Nope. Heterosexual domestic abuse? Nope. The heterosexual divorce rate? Nope.

Most Republicans claim that same sex marriage is a threat to the institution of marriage. DOMA stands for "Defense of Marriage Act" after all. They consider banning same sex marriage and banning federal recognition of same sex marriage from states where it is legal as "defending" marriage. Gays and Lesbians not getting marriage = marriage is safe to them. Gays and Lesbians getting marriage = an attack on marriage to them. So yes, those seven words signify that he is against gay and lesbian folks.

Most of your post is emotional in argument and therefore a waste of words but I will touch base on two points that I can see some rationality in. First, Americans like me agree with you about our protectionist behaviors. To this day that is a holdover from the FDR presidency. Reagan finally undid most of FDRs terrible trade/market policies but not all of them.

Second, the fact that you can deal only in extremes in terms of government systems betrays how uneducated you are. As I mentioned, varying degrees of anything exist in life: including socialism. My point is that socialism has a history of misery and poverty which explains the aversion of Americans to that form of government. However, because I actually know enough to see the various shades of life, I can see that most western countries are a mix of capitalist and socialist (or facist, in the case of the US).

Just because you don't have military roaming the streets in France doesn't mean your government - which is tilted more toward socialism than capitalism - isn't being bankrupted and lessened by your poor choice of government. It's the same reason why America has struggled for the past few decades.

Isn't that Newt Gingrich in a Nutshell.

I'm utterly speechless about your attitude, which basically boils down to "America n°1, the rest of the world is shit". Interesting. Continue dreaming. It's better than facing the truth, I guess.

Don't go all hypocrit on me like that. You're the one saying protectionism is bad, but when a company is relocating in Asia or somewhere else, costing jobs to America, you're among the firsts to scorn that company. A bit of decency would be nice.

Uh-uh, true, socialism (which is a word you use when you should use communism, but you don't seem to be able to tell them apart - talk about being educated) has had its share of misery and poverty - whereas the USA, it is of public knowledge, has no poverty and no misery.

Funny how a poor guy in America is a dumbass who has simply missed his chance in life because of his own incompetence and stupidity, when a poor guy in any other country in the world is obviously oppressed by a socialist/communist government... Talk about balanced view and "shades of life"!

I start to wonder if you really exist or if you're trolling...

So, pray tell me, Chivalrous Knight of Balaced Views on Life, have you spent time in foreign countries? In Europe? Somewhere else? Despite the obvious ironic tone of my question, it IS a real question.

Back on topic, what scares me about Romney is his obvious lack of diplomacy. Remember when he openly criticized Olympic Games organization in London while being in London with the UK Prime Minister?

I know a President has a staff that help him or her to make speeches or decisions, but that's not heralding of the best for him...

That's partisan bollocks, it's sad you don't know that.
Yeah, a lot of those "2/3 of Americans" blame the (R)s for that bullshit...

No. Those seven words could be translated (fairly) into wanting to prevent those in the gay community from marrying. It says nothing about how they feel about the gay and lesbian folks themselves.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not defending the stance to "defend" marriage or any other such claptrap. My position is the opposite, in fact; for one, it goes against the original intent of the Constitution. But I don't think it's fair to make the connection that "defending" marriage means that one opposes homosexuality.

Here's what I said much earlier in the thread: http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/romney_convention_speech/post62

Obama made a speech too, it's here

Looks like you guys have had a pretty good internet discussion on this.

To throw another log on the fire: Fivethirtyeight is now giving Obama an 80% chance of winning.

Everybody with any interest in politics or voting rights in the US should watch Bill Clinton's speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-T16i_tJio

It shows what politics should be. He is attacking the GOP on issues and not personally. Making a passionate statement about politics he believes in and showing what bi-partisan cooperation can achieve. Considering his good relationship with the Bushs (both kinds), he was the perfect person to deliver such a speech. (Yes, George W. Bush actually did some pretty decent stuff, when he wasn't being mislead by his Dick).


And for the facts :
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/sep/05/Bill-Clinton-Democratic-convention/

Lol, that made my day. :)
Talking about US-politics on a Polish dedicated computer games site. But then again the presidential race between a kenian muslim and a moron, err, mormon tax dodger has some good entertainment value for outsiders.

France is nice, I'd consider giving up my left testicle to live near Marseille and enjoy the beaches and women for the rest of my life.
While you're technically correct, there's a pretty strong correlation between opposition to gay marriage and people who are flat out bigoted. I'm sure they exist, but I've yet to find the person who objects to gay marriage on a purely economical basis.