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Hi :)
I'm looking for a cheap smartphone with this features:
- comfortable for web browsing
- with a good email client
- running Android os

Can you GoGers help me to find it?
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WrathOfTheAngels: Hi :)
I'm looking for a cheap smartphone with this features:
- comfortable for web browsing
- with a good email client
- running Android os

Can you GoGers help me to find it?
What carrier are you on? I happen to know the new HTC Inspire on ATT is going to be free on Friday from Best Buy(with an upgrade anyways)
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Dashiva: What carrier are you on?
Sorry for my ignorance, what do you mean with this?
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Dashiva: What carrier are you on?
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WrathOfTheAngels: Sorry for my ignorance, what do you mean with this?
Like do you use AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, or what? Or are you outside of the US?
I've ordered a Geeksphone Zero (http://www.geeksphone.com/en/moviles/zero/) (shipped today, hooray! :D) which may fulfil your needs. It's even on sale right now, ends sometime tomorrow.
Post edited April 27, 2011 by xyem
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WrathOfTheAngels: Sorry for my ignorance, what do you mean with this?
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Dashiva: Like do you use AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, or what? Or are you outside of the US?
I'm in Italy. Maybe I've understood. The carrier is what we call "gestore". For us in Italy they are TIM, WIND, VODAFONE...
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xyem: I've ordered a Geeksphone Zero (http://www.geeksphone.com/en/moviles/zero/) (shipped today, hooray! :D) which may fulfil your needs. It's even on sale right now, ends sometime tomorrow.
Is a bit expensive :s I want something cheaper (about 100 €) because I have the ability to destroy every mobile phone in less then two years (shame on me :( )...
Post edited April 27, 2011 by WrathOfTheAngels
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Dashiva: What carrier are you on?
You know whenever I see this posted by Americans I can't help but think theres someone standing next to them with a gun against their head telling them they can't change carrier at any time they like and are stuck on their current one for life!

I don't think I've ever stuck with a single carrier I just move my number around to whoever outbids the others to take my money (I've had a carrier go down as low as £10 for unlimited texts and data with 200 minutes)
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WrathOfTheAngels: Is a bit expensive :s I want something cheaper (about 100 €) because I have the ability to destroy every mobile phone in less then two years (shame on me :( )...
Wasn't even aware you could get an new, unlocked smart phone that cheap but that isn't saying much, I have never looked for one (the Zero will be my first and sold me on the openness more than anything else).

I wish you luck and will be interested to see what you choose :)
You need to spend at least twice that amount I'm afraid. To have a comfortable browsing experience, you need a phone with a decent resolution and a CPU capable of running Flash properly for that - and €100 won't get you anything decent. I got the HTC Desire for 380 euros which is perfect but even for 100 less, you immediately drop a great deal in power and screen resolution. For €200 you end up in the lower bracket unless you get a contract to go with it.
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Dashiva: What carrier are you on?
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wodmarach: You know whenever I see this posted by Americans I can't help but think theres someone standing next to them with a gun against their head telling them they can't change carrier at any time they like and are stuck on their current one for life!

I don't think I've ever stuck with a single carrier I just move my number around to whoever outbids the others to take my money (I've had a carrier go down as low as £10 for unlimited texts and data with 200 minutes)
Yea, it kinda sucks over here, it helps that at my current job I sell them, so I get pretty cheap rates for everything unlimited.
Since you're in Italy this may not be a viable option but have you considered importing an Orange San Fransisco (aka the ZTE Blade) from the UK? It may be available in other countries as well, but I wouldn't like to say.

It's free to unlock, so it being solely available on Orange isn't so much of a problem, and having used and owned one myself since they came out last year I'm pretty sure it'll tick all your boxes.
HTC Wildfire may be around that price, I looked at getting one a while back but ended up with a good deal on the Desire HD instead, from what I remember you can pick one up for not much more than £100 which at the exchange rate is what 105 Euro
Found this Samsung GT I5500 Galaxy 5 for € 95,00. Someone of you have ever tried it?
I'm afraid all I know about the subject is that the Samsung Epic is a whole ton of fun. I had a basic cellphone when I turned 18 and have had it for the last six years. The battery life, speaker, etc has gotten terrible and all it can do is call people and text, and rather than trying to fix the thing, I decided to invest in a phone that I'll be more than happy to keep for the next six years, or even the next decade.

I was able to get mine for $150, but you'll probably have to get one for $200 or so. It has a qwerty keyboard so I can text much better. The Android OS is impressive, and I was a little unaccustomed to the idea of not having to hack a handheld to play emulators and the like, though rooting is certainly an option, and very easy to do. You already want an Android phone, definitely a good route to go no matter what choice you make.


Unfortunately, due to some kind of bluetooth difficulty, connecting Wii controllers to the Epic is currently impossible, and I don't know if that can be fixed. However, the Game Gripper is rather over-priced for a hunk of rubber and plastic but definitely worth it.

Unfortunately, the emulators still aren't perfect. That's one of my major gripes, several apps like emulators lack competition and the developers want money for them or punish you with ads and being unable to load your savestates, though you could install apps you find outside of the market if you'd rather go that route...

Even NES has a little lag, noticeable when you have no frameskip. Keeping the auto-frameskip on and set to 2 has good results, it's usually not noticeable but you might occasionally slip up. You get used to it, it's very, very playable, and I'd assume it's a software problem since this thing is pretty powerful. The resolution is higher than a DS, so it's a great platform for this, though the controls aren't nearly as nice. The worst issue is probably the layer problems in the Genesis emulator, but you can play pretty much every Genesis and SNES game with only minor complaints. Sound is pretty good, but you can't use the headphone jack with the Game Gripper, and the speaker is on the back of the phone. A bluetooth headset works well.


Battery life is pretty good. You can go from a 1500mah battery to a 3500mah battery, but I didn't like the bulk, so I just use a second battery and a wall-charger. The touch screen takes some getting used to. In a lot of ways I don't like it as much as a DS touch screen. It's very smooth and seems to lack pressure sensitivity, and the drawing programs aren't as good and are littered with ads. There are lousy alternatives, but I sure do wish there was a port of Animanatee, I love Animanatee.

Hopefully it'll get better, the main problem with Android is a need for the kind of talent that the homebrew community for stuff like the Dreamcast, Xbox, DS, PSP, and Wii have enjoyed. I've been trying to learn to write code and make stuff since I was a kid. I haven't been too successful, but with the Android SDK and a ton of well-written and organized information on the official site, maybe I'll finally get serious, focus, and get my hands dirty, and maybe in a few years I can accomplish something. The current state of things is very inspiring. Like the old days of computers, there's simply a lot of untapped potential and ideas that haven't been done, so I've already jotted down things as they come to me that I'd personally like to see. It's just unfortunate that I'm stupid, but one must try!


Oh, and I can play my GOG copies of NetHack with "Twisty", that's a nice piece of software that doesn't shove ads and benefits down your throat. The NetHack port is surprisingly playable, it looks nice and you can have ASCII or tiles (I hate tiles!), though I've yet to figure out how to do certain keystrokes but there must be a way. Angry Birds is simple fun, it gave me something to do until I could play real games with the Game Gripper. Paint Joy, Maple Paint, and Sketcher are pretty good drawing programs, all with their own advantages and disadvantages (Sketcher mostly being a novelty).

There's stuff like Stick Fighter and StickDraw. StickDraw is the best animator I've been able to find, but it doesn't hold a candle to Animanatee and it's fairly annoying. Stick Fighter has the potential to be cool, you animate skeletons and it fills in frames, which is just the kind of thing this platform needs, but there's a giant ad that takes up 1/8th of the screen, and along with the editing bar, it's frustrating.

You could, of course, pay for it. If I was to develop for Android, providing I don't turn into a sellout to get food money, I'd ideally make most or all of my apps free and have a donation option on the title screen, maybe even have a few frivolous benefits like a code for bonus content. In a market saturated with ads, I'd much rather donate to somebody outside of the store with my preferred payment method, consciously knowing I "paid" for a product without having to prove it with logins and accounts, since most people will opt for downloading the APK, or use free alternatives anyway, but I'm not sure this topic is the place to discuss this subject in length.


The best or most interesting programs I've found (that don't come with the phone, but the phone comes with some essential things) include: Amazon Kindle, AndFTP, AndroidVNC, AndSMB, Astro, Backgammon Free, AndroIRC, the Angry Birds games, Chess Free, ColorNote, Dropwords, FTPServer, GameBoid, Gangstar, GBCoid, Gearoid, Gensoid, Go Free, HistoryEraser, IP Webcam, MaplePaint, Marvin, MineDroid, N64oid, Nesoid, Note Everything, Overlook Fing, Pandora, PCE.emu, Paint Joy, NetHack, psx4droid, ROM Manager, ShopSavvy, SNesoid, Stick Fighter, StickDraw, Super Sudoku, Telnet, Terminal Emulator, Titanium Backup, Wikipedia Encyclopedia, WordzUp!.

One of the best things is having a GPS. I have a sense of direction that would rival Ryoga Hibiki, and while I've borrowed GPS, I now have a phone with it. I can use Google Maps and it's satellite scans to navigate around, as long as I have battery I'll probably never get lost. It also came with a 16GB micro sd that now holds much of my GOG soundtracks, I have unlimited 3G access for texting and internet. Unfortunately, I pay $10 extra on my plan for 4G that only exists in a handful of places. An MP3 player, GPS, unlimited internet regardless of Wi-Fi (and if I do have Wi-Fi access, I can use it for greater speeds), the ability be able to read barcodes and take photos with my phone, and a powerful piece of hardware with a keyboard, it's easily worth the $200.


Not cheap, but it does internet like a dream. The browser it comes with is smooth as silk, has no problem with GOG, I can watch YouTube in browser or with the YouTube app, email is seamless, this thing keeps you organized with showing address book birthdays in your calendar, letting you find their address on the map, it's great.

No matter what you choose, I can't say I'm experienced with smartphones and alternative operating systems, but Android is definitely good stuff.
Post edited April 27, 2011 by LordKuruku
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WrathOfTheAngels: Sorry for my ignorance, what do you mean with this?
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Dashiva: Like do you use AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, or what? Or are you outside of the US?
He's in Italy, it's all GSM over there, carrier doesn't matter.

OP, you should look at Phandroid (http://phandroid.com/), probably a Samsung Galaxy is what you want. Be aware that Motorola locks down their bootloads on their Droid line (even the original droid had a locked bootloader in Europe).

Sony-Erricson has some interesting stuff coming out, as well. The Nexus One should be getting pretty cheap, by now, as well, and that's the "Google Phone".