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Kidding, but yes. Good games both
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Fever_Discordia: To tell you the truth, a whole bunch of issues made ME stop playing BG1 too, I'm hoping that this Tutu thing will solve some of them for me
But it's a bit weird because I'm played right through BG2 but not throne of Baal (HD snafu) so I really want to play through all 2 games and 1 expansion with the same char but THAT means playing the whole of BG2 again and I don't know how I could justify replaying BG2 when my backlog of never played games is so big!
Tutu? Well, it's up to you, of couse, but have you seen this?

http://www.spellholdstudios.net/readme/BGTReadme.htm

It's preferable to Tutu, in my opinion.
Yes. 100 times yes. They are the best RPGs ever made. No other RPG series has such a good balance of level design, pacing, magic duels, witty dialog, writing, and characters. I'm not biased at all, honest.
is there exploration?you explore the land or they just do like DA:O,throw a map in your screen and you click where you need to go?
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Profanity: Speaking of Baldur's Gate, maybe some of you may answer this:

Is there anything interesting to do in the carnival? Or is it just couple of unimportant shops? Because it seems like I'm missing something there.
Lets see...
- You can get Branwen who's a decent neutral cleric. Don't buy the scroll from the halfling beside her though, its really overpriced. Buy one from a temple then come back.
- There's a tent with two mages trying to kill each other. If you handle the conversation right you can get up to two decent wizard robes.
- In one tent you can buy two absolutely useless potions. They cost quite a bit less than they sell for though so its worth it.
- Em... Other than the Great Gazib and the Amazing Oopah that's about it.
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l0rdtr3k: is there exploration?you explore the land or they just do like DA:O,throw a map in your screen and you click where you need to go?
Both. A map pops up and you click where you need to go but there are tons of areas (way more than DA:O) and you need to go through smaller areas to get to the more important ones. There's also lots of areas you don't need to go to. Its easily the most open-world of the Bioware games.

BG2, however, does it more DA:O style and allows quite a bit less exploring. Its huge though so it more than makes up for it.
Post edited November 28, 2011 by Trevorish
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Fever_Discordia: I think it's always going to be a potential issue with Level 1 AD&D characters with their 1 die worth of HP!
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Wishbone: That's as maybe, but I've never experienced it in any other AD&D game I've played. I've died plenty of times of course, but never in the very first fight in the game. And I didn't just lose the fight. As I recall it, I didn't even come close to seriously harming a single one of my opponents. It really took away my desire to play the game at all.
Which fight by chance? You don't mean the very first one, as in the bounty hunter in the barracks because he's pretty weak. Do you mean the mage at the Friendly Arm Inn? That fight is ridiculously hard but if you manage to beat it the learning curve gets quite a bit less steep. Remember, Imoen has a wand of magic missiles in her inventory. Don't be afraid to use it.

Hmm... you said opponents? I can't think of any difficult early fight with multiple enemies. Maybe you just explored too much too early? Its best to listen to Gorion's advice and head straight to the Friendly Arm Inn.
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Wishbone: That's as maybe, but I've never experienced it in any other AD&D game I've played. I've died plenty of times of course, but never in the very first fight in the game. And I didn't just lose the fight. As I recall it, I didn't even come close to seriously harming a single one of my opponents. It really took away my desire to play the game at all.
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Trevorish: Which fight by chance? You don't mean the very first one, as in the bounty hunter in the barracks because he's pretty weak. Do you mean the mage at the Friendly Arm Inn? That fight is ridiculously hard but if you manage to beat it the learning curve gets quite a bit less steep. Remember, Imoen has a wand of magic missiles in her inventory. Don't be afraid to use it.

Hmm... you said opponents? I can't think of any difficult early fight with multiple enemies. Maybe you just explored too much too early? Its best to listen to Gorion's advice and head straight to the Friendly Arm Inn.
He probably meant the enemies in the first area outside of Candlekeep. If you rest or wander into the wrong portion of the map you get ambushed by a group of 2 or 3 something. Can't for the life of me remember what they are but they will 1 shot a mage-kit given how pathetic the starting HP is.
Post edited November 28, 2011 by Whiteblade999
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l0rdtr3k: is there exploration?you explore the land or they just do like DA:O,throw a map in your screen and you click where you need to go?
Actually it's quite the opposite, if I recall correctly. Sometimes you need to explore the whole map to find a quest giver, because that guy's standing way off the roads somewhere in the wilderness and you'll only know he's there if you leave the roads yourself.
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Trevorish: Which fight by chance? You don't mean the very first one, as in the bounty hunter in the barracks because he's pretty weak. Do you mean the mage at the Friendly Arm Inn? That fight is ridiculously hard but if you manage to beat it the learning curve gets quite a bit less steep. Remember, Imoen has a wand of magic missiles in her inventory. Don't be afraid to use it.

Hmm... you said opponents? I can't think of any difficult early fight with multiple enemies. Maybe you just explored too much too early? Its best to listen to Gorion's advice and head straight to the Friendly Arm Inn.
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Whiteblade999: He probably meant the enemies in the first area outside of Candlekeep. If you rest or wander into the wrong portion of the map you get ambushed by a group of 2 or 3 something. Can't for the life of me remember what they are but they will 1 shot a mage-kit given how pathetic the starting HP is.
As far as I recall (and please understand, it's been many years, so my memory is a bit sketchy), it was a fight against 3 fireball-slinging opponents in some sort of library.

Hmm... Well, this is embarrassing. I've looked at a few Let's Plays, in order to figure out exactly which fight I was in fact talking about, and have come to an awkward conclusion. The game I'm thinking of is not BG1, but BG2.

Right, so this must be the fight. It's not the enemies I remember, but it's definitely the location I remember. On the other hand, it's not the first fight either, but I seriously don't remember any combat prior to this point.

I think I have to conclude that A) I'm an idiot, and B) I guess I just suck at BG2, and finally C) I don't think I've ever actually played BG1 :-/
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Fever_Discordia: To tell you the truth, a whole bunch of issues made ME stop playing BG1 too, I'm hoping that this Tutu thing will solve some of them for me
But it's a bit weird because I'm played right through BG2 but not throne of Baal (HD snafu) so I really want to play through all 2 games and 1 expansion with the same char but THAT means playing the whole of BG2 again and I don't know how I could justify replaying BG2 when my backlog of never played games is so big!
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Nergal01: Tutu? Well, it's up to you, of couse, but have you seen this?

http://www.spellholdstudios.net/readme/BGTReadme.htm

It's preferable to Tutu, in my opinion.
I HAD seen that actually, I was going to ask about it at some point - opinions anyone?
This vs tutu?
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l0rdtr3k: is there exploration?you explore the land or they just do like DA:O,throw a map in your screen and you click where you need to go?
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Leroux: Actually it's quite the opposite, if I recall correctly. Sometimes you need to explore the whole map to find a quest giver, because that guy's standing way off the roads somewhere in the wilderness and you'll only know he's there if you leave the roads yourself.
Though I'll just point out that those are the side quest givers, so you don't have to worry about running all over the place and having a hard time finding the people to advance the main quest. And given the size of each map they're (side quests) actually quite easy to find if you explore the whole location.
Post edited November 29, 2011 by Fel1