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QC: *snip*
Here's a pertinent question: I'm not trying to invoke paranoia or anything, but your brother (or his girlfriend) wouldn't happen to also be a GOG user, would he?

I'm just wondering if this forum is the best place to have this discussion.
Games that weren't specifically given to him are both yours. You both have right to them equally. If he wants to take them away, he should pay your 1/2 share of each one. You could also find some other way to solve this.

He has no right to just take them.

In short - every game that wasn't specifically given to him is 1/2 yours. He either has to pay you 50% of every game that he's taking away, or you have to figure something else out, like deciding which games he can take. After that, he will own the games he's taken, and you'd own the rest of them exclusively (no longer shared ownership)

Damn, family feuds over belongings are always the worst.


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xyem: I'm surprised no-one has mentioned anything about this..
That's probably nobody's interested in diggin up in his family shit.

This topic is about shared ownership of games.
Post edited July 17, 2013 by keeveek
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keeveek: That's probably nobody's interested in diggin up in his family shit.

This topic is about shared ownership of games.
Why is it a topic about shared ownership of games?

It is a point of contention, sure, but it isn't the whole situation we've been presented with.
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xyem: It is a point of contention, sure, but it isn't the whole situation we've been presented with.
He specifically asked how to handle his issue about games.
Well, it's morning, one self breakdown later and they haven't said a word to me except for written and audible proof of several lies. I pissed..... well, I pissed HER off, with her going off about privacy and about it being their room and some other things before throwing me out. I spent most of the night outside trying to collect myself, broke down once or twice (Clinical depression is an A-Hole), came back, and now I'm kind of stuck. Talked with my mother when she got home that night, gave her my medication so that I wouldn't have temptation to add doses and stayed up with her most of the night. Didn't sleep very well. From the looks of it, they've decided they're not waiting to move out, having already moved the two boxes they had sealed and getting them out of the house. I've already cherry picked a couple items thankfully that were easy to contest, but they'll simply be more pissed off if I stated it was in the sealed boxes, and not believe me, probably because more privacy and ect ect, and it's probably more about the porn they had tucked away with them.

I understand wanting privacy, but they have no privacy in their own sex lives to begin with, lubricant bottles in easy view of the shelf, openly admitting porn movies, and they are lousy at hiding toys and assorted. My best guess is talking to my brother by himself if I can, since as someone pointed out last night the girlfriend is being his mouthpiece. My mother again seems to be the last person to keep a safe and healthy connection with the rest of the family, so it might be her that manages to patch things over. She has pulled my brother aside alone to talk though I don't know what's going to happen.
I would bribe them with cheesecake and then, when they're sedated from the sugar high, rifle through the games they've packed and hide the ones you want.

Either that, or slip some Nyquil in their soda.

KIDDING

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ok so on a serious note, really I think the thing you should be worried about is after he and his girlfriend break up, whether or not he'll keep those games. It's almost a certainty that they will break up, based on statistics and his age.

I wouldn't put much stock into the super-sekret-thingie with them being 2 feet apart at all times, but it probably means that she's pregnant, and has gotten him to agree to live with her family.

In terms of getting the games that are "disputed" or that you know for a fact you own, be honest. You >know< certain games belong to you, so speak up and voice it. I wouldn't worry too much about he said she said, just state the facts and present evidence until he and she give in.

Also, while some video games are worth a lot it's not worth your dignity. Physical items are worthless outside of the memories they bring.

Hope this helps some!
~Cym
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keeveek: He specifically asked how to handle his issue about games.
The issue is not about the games (they aren't leaving of their own accord), it is that someone is taking (what he perceives to be?) his property.

Besides, the solution is obvious. Send all the games to me and I will lend them out to whichever brother wishes to play it for a set period of time! :)
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keeveek: He specifically asked how to handle his issue about games.
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xyem: The issue is not about the games (they aren't leaving of their own accord), it is that someone is taking (what he perceives to be?) his property.

Besides, the solution is obvious. Send all the games to me and I will lend them out to whichever brother wishes to play it for a set period of time! :)
I support this. +1
I think it would be best if the girlfriend would have an accident if you know what I mean *wink* *wink*

Relax, I'm only joking :)

Hit your brother in the gnads and tell him to stop being so whipped.
Basically if she's into freaky sex as you say then you got not chance to resolve things peacefully with your brother. So if being civil is out the window... then don't be civil. They lie, you lie, they steal, you steal. Cynical yet effective (in getting your games back of course).
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_Bruce_: This probably won't make you feel any better but my brother used to just sell my games. He knew full well they weren't his and he probably wouldn't get away with it. One time when complaining about him selling some speakers of mine he felt entirely justified because he got more than I paid for it.

As has been suggested you have to balance your relationship with your brother over the physical and emotional value of the games. It sucks though.
If my siblings would do that I would keep tabs, keeping the sales check, writing bills to my sibling as soon as something of mine is missing.
When I was 6 years old I destroyed a Vinyl LP of James Brown of my sister once because I wanted to be a rapper, scratch vinyl... & stuff.
I had to pay for it, my first pocket money went down drain, I still feel bad damaging her property but I paid for it so it's okay.



Anyway back to OPs question:
I'm sorry, I don't grasp the family situation fully here but I tell what I would do with my sibling in such a case.

1) State that you are unhappy with the situation that he (and this girlfriend of his) decides alone which games are his which aren't => YOU ARE EXCLUDED => BAD!!!

2) Ask him what he would do in your shoes and what he can do to remedy this situation?

3) When the games are as important to him as they are to you make a simply contract, in good terms when all of you have a good mood. Both of you aren't allowed to sell the games and have to provide replacement in case one game is destroyed. Games that belong to both of you have to be traded regularly every month, or every semester. I'll bet he either doesn't care or he really hates the situation as he has to leave some games to you which he rather would have played.

4) No, sorry no profit yet

5) If he gets emotional first just laugh at him because he just admitted he wronged you.

6) Don't get emotional first, try to rationalise and try to be as empathic as possible

7) Under no circumstance let the girlfriend have anything to do with that, that will help your brother immensivle as it well help you.

8) If all else fails call for a mediator, a person who understands both of you and which jugdgement is accepted by both of you

9) If he doesn't agree to point 9 you can Steal your games back, or even better steal his girlfriend, he doesn't have the social competence to have any of them either.

10) ...

11) Prophet!
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_Bruce_: This probably won't make you feel any better but my brother used to just sell my games. He knew full well they weren't his and he probably wouldn't get away with it. One time when complaining about him selling some speakers of mine he felt entirely justified because he got more than I paid for it.

As has been suggested you have to balance your relationship with your brother over the physical and emotional value of the games. It sucks though.
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Khadgar42: If my siblings would do that I would keep tabs, keeping the sales check, writing bills to my sibling as soon as something of mine is missing.
When I was 6 years old I destroyed a Vinyl LP of James Brown of my sister once because I wanted to be a rapper, scratch vinyl... & stuff.
I had to pay for it, my first pocket money went down drain, I still feel bad damaging her property but I paid for it so it's okay.
This just shows you have never had to deal with a situation like this if you think this would work.

OP: I, like others, think that the girlfriend is a big part of the problem. My advice (being in similar situations) do NOT tell your brother this. People can only be told that their partner is bad for them when they are ready to hear it. Before this you just drive them away.
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Khadgar42: If my siblings would do that I would keep tabs, keeping the sales check, writing bills to my sibling as soon as something of mine is missing.
When I was 6 years old I destroyed a Vinyl LP of James Brown of my sister once because I wanted to be a rapper, scratch vinyl... & stuff.
I had to pay for it, my first pocket money went down drain, I still feel bad damaging her property but I paid for it so it's okay.
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_Bruce_: This just shows you have never had to deal with a situation like this if you think this would work.
Sorry, I don't get your point.
It works with my siblings.
If I can't set things straight the moment I feel they wronged me they are not worthy to call siblings.
My friends can cope with constructive criticism and I expect my family to be able to do the same.
Quite frankly they actually do.
If we really get furious about each other, (happens from time to time) we might stop talking for a while, but that's not that bad, it's not forever and it's far better to be upset for a couple of days/weeks/months than holding a lifetime grudge against each other.
But as I already mentioned, I'm neither a family therapist nor do I know the local tradition or the current situation the family is in, so while this would work in my family there is absolutely no guarantee that it works for others.
Considering this - I find your statement mildly insulting.
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_Bruce_: This just shows you have never had to deal with a situation like this if you think this would work.
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Khadgar42: Sorry, I don't get your point.
It works with my siblings.
If I can't set things straight the moment I feel they wronged me they are not worthy to call siblings.
My friends can cope with constructive criticism and I expect my family to be able to do the same.
Quite frankly they actually do.
If we really get furious about each other, (happens from time to time) we might stop talking for a while, but that's not that bad, it's not forever and it's far better to be upset for a couple of days/weeks/months than holding a lifetime grudge against each other.
But as I already mentioned, I'm neither a family therapist nor do I know the local tradition or the current situation the family is in, so while this would work in my family there is absolutely no guarantee that it works for others.
Considering this - I find your statement mildly insulting.
I did not mean to insult you. Your comment suggests that in cases of family break down everyone can act logically if given a chance. If you have family that you can talk to frankly and get along after a fight then I am very happy for you.

In my particular case my brother is still in and out of counselling with my parents and the issues are very far from resolved. From your fortunate position you may struggle to understand how difficult these situations are.
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QC: I understand wanting privacy, but they have no privacy in their own sex lives to begin with, lubricant bottles in easy view of the shelf, openly admitting porn movies, and they are lousy at hiding toys and assorted. My best guess is talking to my brother by himself if I can, since as someone pointed out last night the girlfriend is being his mouthpiece. My mother again seems to be the last person to keep a safe and healthy connection with the rest of the family, so it might be her that manages to patch things over. She has pulled my brother aside alone to talk though I don't know what's going to happen.
"Hey guys. Just thought I'd toss this out there: you give me all the games that belong to me, and I'll tell you which sex toys and personal items I dunked in the toilet, wiped in dog crap, or in the compost bin. I mean, it's you choice: if she WANTS to get a yeast infection that certainly doesn't bother me, but it'll sure be a lot less painful to just give me my crap back now and avoid all that."
Post edited July 18, 2013 by schmea