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64-bit Windows XP is a bit of an obscurity, it never was in that huge circulation and if I recall right had very limmited driver support. It was never meant to be replacement OS for people wanting to use 64-bit CPU's and Windows, just a game opener for MS itself, so that they coudl show that they do understand the architechture.
Goddamnit, I DEMAND BIOWARE TO SUPPORT DOS IN THE NEXT MASS EFFECT AND DRAGON AGE!!!
Post edited August 01, 2013 by ktchong
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ktchong: Goddamnit, I DEMAND BIOWARE TO SUPPORT DOS IN THE NEXT MASS EFFECT AND DRAGON AGE!!!
To hell with DOS, I demand OS/2 Warp support. It already can run Win3.11 software, so adding support for other Windows versions should be a cake walk.
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Dzsono: But surely x64 XP was never really fully supported by anything at any time? I remember trying to make a full conversion, but couldn't, because drivers, games, software varied greatly in compatibility. Too much hassle :(
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Maighstir: I did use XP x64 for a good while, but it was never intended for home or hobbyist use, and only sold to the same long after Vista had already been released (at least I never saw it in online stores selling to home users until then - I ... acquired it elsewhere). It was more closely related to Server 2003 than to XP x86 and was only intended for corporate customers with memory-heavy applications, build by their demand even, if I recall correctly.
Ya, I wanted to end my dual-boot woes by transitioning from x86, but in the end I only used x64 for audio editing work because of the higher RAM allocation. I'm greatful for W7, I must say :)
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ussnorway: Some people say the death of xp gaming was Bioware dropping support
Who?
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ussnorway: Some people say the death of xp gaming was Bioware dropping support while others note that the latest Bioware games have been less than epically received.

To be clear;
For this post xp gamers use xp 64bit… the fact that Bioware still supports xp 32 bit users is irrelevant.

Some back ground;
Bioware has two flagship games (Mass Effect & Dragon Age) as well as the starwars (knights of the old republic) online attempt.
Mass Effect 1, Dragon Age 1, Mass Effect 2 & Dragon Age 2 will play on a XP 64bit machine.
Mass Effect 3 won’t but it’s the starwars game that really nails the lid shut because Bioware asked several XP 64bit gamers to play-test their game as a beta before changing system specs for the final release.

The result;
IMO dropping xp 64bit from the list was inevitably a marketing decision but A lot of xp gamers felt betrayed by this move because {they had just proved} the game (beta) worked fine on xp 64bit machines so the exclusion of xp 64bit machines from retail release was seen by many as a clear “fuck you” from Bioware.
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/ace_of_bioware/page1
Folly? Yeah, I'm sure their success largely depended on Windows XP gamers.
Move ON already!
I'm surprised XP even has the hardware support any more, as in if you have a machine good enough to run Mass Effect 3 then I'm surprised you can find the drivers to run that ancient OS on your shiny new kit
Each generation of hardware makes this less and less likely and the next generation of consoles has now been announced...
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ussnorway: ...
I don't see a problem with game publishers dropping support for old Windows versions in their new games.

I do see a big problem with either the publishers, or digital store services, retroactively dropping support so that you can't play even your old games on the old Windows, for which you originally bought it. If I bought a game long time ago for my old Windows PC where I know it works, I should be able to continue playing it there as long as that system works. Just like I can still play my old PS2 games on my PS2, and not have to buy a PS3 or PS4 in order to continue playing them (and hope they even work there)..

E.g. Valve (Steam) has already done the latter at least once.
Post edited August 01, 2013 by timppu
XP64 was a kind of experimental release for Microsoft. Also, more importantly, it has never gotten the Service Pack 3 update, which is the main reason for incompatibility.

There are also other limitations.

So I wouldn't blame Bioware. I think Microsoft itself has dropped support for XP64 and currently the only XP system they are backing is XP SP3, which is , by nature, 32-bit.
I learned that XP had 64 bit version today.
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Khadgar42: Because of fanboys 'n girls?
After all those shitty Windows releases before, XP has generated quite some fanbase.
Some things actually were better in XP, mainly that MS seems to have changed or removed some abilities from later versions, either because they thought no one cares, or because of digital rights management.

As it happens, it seems I will have to use one of my XP PCs soon, just because I need to record audio files from Munt (MT-32 emulator). If I understood correctly, in XP I can simply tell Windows to record "anything I hear" digitally without using any analog loop cables or anything. Ie. I can have a DOSBox game playing beautiful MT-32 music, and at the same time record that straight to a digital file with the Windows Sound Recorder. I've yet to try it though.

For the life of me, I can't figure out how to do the same in Windows 7 (if someone knows, please tell!). Even when I google for it, the MS pages just seem to state that in Windows 7 you can use the Sound Recorder only to record audio coming through an analog cable into your line-in or mic ports (ie. analog audio to digital), not record directly any audio playing in Windows into a file.

Is this really true? The only reason I could see for them to prevent this is so that people are not able to digitally record copyrighted music playing in the background etc. So, remove features because they might be misused by the end-user? Logical, and preferable to the corporate bitches, but still an inconvenience to the end-users.

The other thing is how much harder it is to work with anything related to MIDI (game) music in Vista and later. You can't easily change the target for MIDI (e.g. Munt), or change MIDI volume, etc., without using 3rd party software (like BASSMIDI). If they think people don't need to use MIDI music anymore, why didn't they then simply remove the whole ability from newer Windows versions to listen to MIDI files? Remove the MS GS Wavetable Softsynth, while you are at it. That should do it.
Post edited August 01, 2013 by timppu
After XP it is far harder to do a lot of things. Government organisations like where I work will be keeping XP as long as they can. Some governments are even considering Linux rather than the later versions of windows.

Also many hospitals use XP to run a lot of their equipment. Luckily these do not need to hook up to the net so wont need future upgrades. After XP a lot of laboritory equipment have hardware that will not work on later versions.

Look at windows 8, it is not even worth considering unless you are using a tablet so XP is really one system behind.

I use hot swap drives to boot either XP or 7. XP for me is by far the better operating system. windows 8 never. I will move to Linux or MAC before that.

Look at steam, they have lost interest in windows in the future looking to support Linux instead. EG Steam box.

The only way MS could force people off XP was to drop support for later versions of directX, otherwise XP (32 bit anyway) would have stayed the preferred operating system.

Just my thoughts anyway.

Long live XP

Cheers
The simple fact is that, as with everything mass-produced, Windows XP is reaching the end of it's product life cycle. They won't make more money out of it, but continuous support will cost them.

4 years ago or something, one of the polish portals tested XP/Vista/7 against each other in terms of performance and results were mixed. Some games were faster, some slower on XP than on other systems, but overally, the differences weren't that big.

The irritating thing about the whole ordeal is that some people have computers they are perfectly happy with: and I would dare say that XP has aged very well and is pretty much still a very good system, save for poor driver support out of the box and the need for occasional reinstall. But I get that people would like to stick with what they bought, use, like and still find very useful. It's like changing the na

So I would be rather careful calling anyone "an XP fanboy". I drive a 1992 car which is in a very good condition and I would be pretty irritated if they introduced some slight changes (like changing the refuelling pistol at all of the gas stations so it won't fit my tank) that would force me to "upgrade".

Still, the biggest limitation is that it's a 32-bit system, so there's the memory allocation problem.
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Khadgar42: After all those shitty Windows releases before...
...and after :)