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Posted October 25, 2012
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Asturaetus: The problem is the rapist also wins. He is rewarded with a child. There are enough guys who loved to have a family and don't find a partner.

If they know that everything it takes to have a family is to rape a woman...?
That sounds like something you could find in the Old Testament. We should all make the modern society adhere to it fundamentally without even bothering to read the book properly. Who gives a hoot about the victim anyway when there's rapist spooge to save.

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Asturaetus: Also you keep mentioning psychological problems of the mother - but what about the father? Does a rapist really qualify as a good parent?
Why not? He's clearly straight, or trying to be, and not a crazy woman. Man, it's like you don't get this stuff.
Post edited October 25, 2012 by Adzeth
Posted October 25, 2012
Slightly on and off topic, but a personal favourite:

Bill Hicks - Christians Fundamentalists Creationists Bush
Posted October 25, 2012
To everyone who didn't get it, I was ridiculing what I find insanely stupid views. An act of frustration, and maybe slight trollism. Sorry about that, everyone (except the ones who were siding with me thinking I was serious, I'd do it again to you, just out of spite! muahahahaa).
Posted October 25, 2012
I liked the term "Wallmart Moms"....kinda like a sort of Anti Milf thing . :)
Posted October 25, 2012
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amok: Bill Hicks - Christians Fundamentalists Creationists Bush
You, see, you see? He was joking about God and HE'S DEAD NOW. :P
Post edited October 25, 2012 by keeveek
Posted October 25, 2012
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Adzeth: Just think about it. The child gets to live and doesn't have to live with a mother who has psychological problems now. The rapist has shown his straightness already, so he's a qualified parent. They just need to put nurseries in prisons. I hear the US needs more prisons anyway. Everyone wins.
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Adzeth: Why not? He's clearly straight, or trying to be, and not a crazy woman. Man, it's like you don't get this stuff.
ROFL !

+1's dude, you're killing me.
Posted October 25, 2012
Mourdock is an idiot but I think it's true that people are twisting his words (as he claims himself). I guess he just wanted to express that a child resulting from a rape deserves the same respect as any other kid, he expressed it in such a manner though that it's easy to claim this was some "pro-rape" statement. It's by far not the sickest thing I've heard from a Christian fundamentalist over the last months.
Posted October 25, 2012
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SimonG: I thought woman don't get pregnant if the rape is legitimate?
*rimshot*
Posted October 25, 2012
Yeah, that statement sounds pretty callous. You see where he starts - God loves all his children, regardless of their conception. But then it veers off into short-sighted really fast.

His statement follows logically from a common Christian doctrine (not shared by the LDS church, btw), which is that God micromanages/ordains everything. So if anything happens, it must be because God explicitly ordained it.

This can lead to all kinds of justifications, and winds up conflicting with the doctrine of charity since isn't being poor/whatever ordained of God? It's a dangerous load of BS but it keeps getting repeated.

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F4LL0UT: Mourdock is an idiot but I think it's true that people are twisting his words (as he claims himself). I guess he just wanted to express that a child resulting from a rape deserves the same respect as any other kid, he expressed it in such a manner though that it's easy to claim this was some "pro-rape" statement. It's by far not the sickest thing I've heard from a Christian fundamentalist over the last months.
But he's a *politican*. Part of his job is making sure that his sentiments are clearly phrased. So if he's taking heat for being bad at his job, I'm OK with that. The media are going nuts, but they always do that to right-wing people. I don't think it's right, but it's not exactly a surprise.
Post edited October 25, 2012 by HGiles
Posted October 25, 2012
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F4LL0UT: Mourdock is an idiot but I think it's true that people are twisting his words (as he claims himself).
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HGiles: But he's a *politican*. Part of his job is making sure that his sentiments are clearly phrased. So if he's taking heat for being bad at his job, I'm OK with that.
Of course, and so am I. I'm enjoying how he's earning criticism for his statement since I don't agree with his views but I think more intelligent people should not take part in the word twisting which, let's be honest, resulted from ignorance.
Posted October 25, 2012
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HGiles: But he's a *politican*. Part of his job is making sure that his sentiments are clearly phrased. So if he's taking heat for being bad at his job, I'm OK with that.
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F4LL0UT: Of course, and so am I. I'm enjoying how he's earning criticism for his statement since I don't agree with his views but I think more intelligent people should not take part in the word twisting which, let's be honest, resulted from ignorance.
Fair enough.
Posted October 25, 2012
I don't believe in god or heaven at all. I suppose I could be wrong, but my tendency is to pretty strongly disbelieve in either of those two things.

That said, if someone did believe in God and that God was responsible for all things, then what that guy said would be completely consistent with that belief. I think they believe that God intends all that happens to happen. All he did was vocalize one of the more horrible events that can happen - a rape.

Everyone gets offended and outraged at everything said these days. The guy was not condoning rape or supporting rape in even the slightest way. What he said is consistent with his belief. If you have ever been through an event extremely violent and brutal and toxic, you'd know that something good can come from even those situations. Much, much terribleness comes as well, but this guys point is that there can be a good that results in addition to the extreme terribleness.

Be reasonable and you can easily understand that this (what I said above) is what he intended with his message. Of course he did not intend to condone rape in even the slightest way. And that he did intend, his ultimate point, was that life is very precious and so forth and that such "miracles (of life)" can are valuable no matter what their source, and that we should love them all the same.

Approaching this situation with reason and common sense should cause any outrage or offense in anyone to disappear.
Posted October 25, 2012
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da187jimmbones: That said, if someone did believe in God and that God was responsible for all things, then what that guy said would be completely consistent with that belief.
I actually somewhat respect it more than someone like Romney who screams about fetuses being alive and abortion being murder but then saying it's okay when the father is a horrible person.

That said the clear logical step is pro-choice, IMO.
Posted October 25, 2012
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da187jimmbones: I don't believe in god or heaven at all. I suppose I could be wrong, but my tendency is to pretty strongly disbelieve in either of those two things.

That said, if someone did believe in God and that God was responsible for all things, then what that guy said would be completely consistent with that belief. I think they believe that God intends all that happens to happen. All he did was vocalize one of the more horrible events that can happen - a rape.

Everyone gets offended and outraged at everything said these days. The guy was not condoning rape or supporting rape in even the slightest way. What he said is consistent with his belief. If you have ever been through an event extremely violent and brutal and toxic, you'd know that something good can come from even those situations. Much, much terribleness comes as well, but this guys point is that there can be a good that results in addition to the extreme terribleness.

Be reasonable and you can easily understand that this (what I said above) is what he intended with his message. Of course he did not intend to condone rape in even the slightest way. And that he did intend, his ultimate point, was that life is very precious and so forth and that such "miracles (of life)" can are valuable no matter what their source, and that we should love them all the same.

Approaching this situation with reason and common sense should cause any outrage or offense in anyone to disappear.
This. Now can we please talk about something else? Like the fact that I bought Megabyte Punch yesterday and it's great?
Posted October 25, 2012
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da187jimmbones: *snip*
Dunno about the consistency. "The rape and following pregnancy happened because God willed it, since everything that happens is the will of God, but you shouldn't do that abortion bit, because it's against the will of God even if it happens."
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