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I'm not sure I'll add much to what others have already said, but you have to remember GOG enriches for Good Old Games and (mostly) leaves the bad ones out in the dust of history where they belong. Whereas we see all the new games both good and bad. People here generally will play and commend the good games and be very unforgiving to the bad ones. As is true in any epoch of history, there are a lot more bad created than good (see Sturgeon's quote in nondeplumage's post). Given that we've experienced some of the classics with amazing gameplay, it's harder to be forgiving to games in the same genre that make mistakes in gameplay corrected awhile ago even if they've improved the graphical quality. There also some trends noted by Wish and Orcish that some of the older gamers don't really ... appreciate. One I don't think they mentioned is the rise of the bad PC port of console games, where the PC version isn't all it can be because the company didn't bother making a good port. Now this doesn't really affect the genres I play very much, but it has affected people here. So there is nostalgia; there is the quality of classics being compared to only-on-par or worse sub-par games; there are certain negative trends in the gaming industry; but, in general, when a great new game does come out I think you'll find people here very appreciative of it.
Post edited April 24, 2011 by crazy_dave
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PhoenixWright: There are some good games out there being released currently. And I think most of the people here hate the trends listed by Wishbone, and associate them with the modern market in general. So it's understandable when someone speaks out against the market in general.
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noname875: i can understand that, i mean, when i actually have to look on the back of a games box to decide if my computer will work with the drm it uses, somethings gone wrong.
In the bad old days, you'd look at the back of the box and wonder which computer platform the screenshots belonged to. Oh the nostalgia! ;)
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stonebro: I'll just leave this here.
*wipes tear from eye
Post edited April 24, 2011 by Snickersnack
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Wishbone: I don't think anyone here hates all new games, period. However, I do think that some people here (myself included) have issues with some of the general developments in the gaming industry over the past 10 years.

Some of these may include (but are not necessarily restricted to):
- Excessively restrictive DRM schemes
- Customer-unfriendly DLC policies
- Shorter games
- Poor singleplayer experiences
- Focus on graphics over gameplay
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Sielle: This summed it up perfectly for me. I don't hate new games, in fact I love it when a good new game is released. If they can avoid the issues listed above then I'll gladly throw down $50-$60 for the game, even more if they offer a Collectors Edition with things like an Art Book or little statue.

The problem is most new games aren't worth the asking price. They aren't bad games per say, but they aren't worth full launch price.
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stonebro: I'll just leave this here.
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Sielle: Now really impress us by telling us what game the first map was from. ;)
DOOM, E1M6: Central Processing :)
Post edited April 24, 2011 by Fuzzyfireball
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Wishbone: I don't think anyone here hates all new games, period. However, I do think that some people here (myself included) have issues with some of the general developments in the gaming industry over the past 10 years.

Some of these may include (but are not necessarily restricted to):
- Excessively restrictive DRM schemes
- Customer-unfriendly DLC policies
- Shorter games
- Poor singleplayer experiences
- Focus on graphics over gameplay
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Sielle: This summed it up perfectly for me. I don't hate new games, in fact I love it when a good new game is released. If they can avoid the issues listed above then I'll gladly throw down $50-$60 for the game, even more if they offer a Collectors Edition with things like an Art Book or little statue.

The problem is most new games aren't worth the asking price. They aren't bad games per say, but they aren't worth full launch price.
Wishbone summed it up for me too, but you brought up another good point about some of the old games. Many times, a game didn't have to be a collector's edition to have a manual with lots of art in it or a little figurine or a cloth map. Now, you will most likely only get a five page manual with a game purchase.
I am waiting for another Great Videogame Crash of 1983 to happen. Maybe that will strip all of the bullshit that's been surrounding gaming lately.
I am 25 and have played many of these GOGs back in the day, but i also have a huge catalog on steam. I would say that there are good and bad games in either set. Some games really stand out whether they are old or new. When I think back on my gaming history I remember the games that stood out from the pack and I would say they are about evenly dispersed over time.

Personally, I think we are entering a new golden age of PC gaming and I don't think it has ever been better. It has never been easier to buy PC games (old or new) and run them on a PC, regardless of operating system. Steam and GOG provide valuable services to gamers and discourage piracy by providing convenience and other incentives for purchasing legitimate copies. Indie developers are starting to really stand out and can easily distribute their wares without going through the big publishers. As gamers we are no longer limited by what the local stores keep in stock. More and more titles that would have been console-only before are appearing on PC. When you think about it, it really is amazing how far things have come in the last decade.
I can only second what others have already said before. It's all about good games vs. bad games, not old games vs. new ones. I'm sceptical of all this talk of "things ain't what they used to be", it often comes down to personal preferences and bias and the human tendency to glorify the past over the present because it's passed and not that present anymore. (And I fear the tendency increases with age.) ;)

I don't hate new games at all, the reason why I usually prefer old ones are purely technical, because they have lower system requirements and are more affordable. Of course there are certain tendencies in the industry that might not necessarily benefit the development of good games, depending on your viewpoint (DLC, pay-to-play, MMO vs. SP etc.). But even that is kind of subjective and I'm confident it won't prevent creative people from developing good new games.

And, yes, I agree with jsdratm that there are definitely positive developments, as far as availability of classics and cool new Indie games is concerned.
Post edited April 24, 2011 by Leroux
What do people here have against new games? Not much? I'd say the vast majority of people here rush to buy recent AAA titles judging from threads.
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JudasIscariot: I am waiting for another Great Videogame Crash of 1983 to happen. Maybe that will strip all of the bullshit that's been surrounding gaming lately.
Won't help. The crash only effected consoles. It was a great time for home computers.
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JudasIscariot: I am waiting for another Great Videogame Crash of 1983 to happen. Maybe that will strip all of the bullshit that's been surrounding gaming lately.
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Snickersnack: Won't help. The crash only effected consoles. It was a great time for home computers.
Then we need to stop buying crap like Dragon Age 2 because it's one of the leading causes of the decline. Have you seen the dialogue choices??
I don't think people here hate new games, they just hate bad games, and if some of the new games end up doing the things other posters have previously listed, it will seem like we hate new games.

That said, the whole new vs old is skewed. There were plenty of bad old games in the eighties and nineties, but since those end up forgotten (or infamously remembered), the true gems from that period end up encompassing the "good old game" bracket. It's an unfair comparison. We're pitting the best of the best from old against everything we're getting today, good AND bad.
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El_Caz: I don't think people here hate new games, they just hate bad games, and if some of the new games end up doing the things other posters have previously listed, it will seem like we hate new games.

That said, the whole new vs old is skewed. There were plenty of bad old games in the eighties and nineties, but since those end up forgotten (or infamously remembered), the true gems from that period end up encompassing the "good old game" bracket. It's an unfair comparison. We're pitting the best of the best from old against everything we're getting today, good AND bad.
Yeah, i think this probably sums this topic up.
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JudasIscariot: I am waiting for another Great Videogame Crash of 1983 to happen. Maybe that will strip all of the bullshit that's been surrounding gaming lately.
You and me both, I've heard others mention the same.
Nothing.

I wish that they would offer new games here too.
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gamebin: Nothing.

I wish that they would offer new games here too.
well, it depends on what games. as much as i like call of duty, i wouldnt want the cod fanboys coming here to download modern warfare 7 when it comes out next year :P