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thebum06: That looks bad indeed. I attached what mine looks like. I do have one orange tile it seems, I forgot about that one. I haven't really used the metro screen for a long time. I mostly use winkey-s to run programs.
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marianne: I like your desktop screen. I also googled winkey. Had no idea what a treasure that was.
Yep, the windows key is used for a lot of nice shortcuts. My favorite is added in windows 8.1. It's Windows Key + S, which allows you to search for everything on your PC.
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DalekSec: With steam games is another matter, since steam not create real shortcuts, instead steam create URL's that direct to the game, and you cannot pin URL's to the start screen if isn't trought the modern ui version of IE.
Is fault of both, Steam and MS, of Steam for not create real shortcuts, and of MS for stupid limitations.
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Leroux: What you can do is figure out the game's ID by checking the properties of the 'false' Steam shortcut, then create a shortcut of the steam.exe itself and add "-applaunch [game ID]" as a starting paramenter. After that you will be able to pin it to the metro screen, too. It works fine, but it's very roundabout.
Is more easy to manually create a shorcut to the game executable itself ;)
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DalekSec: Is more easy to manually create a shorcut to the game executable itself ;)
Oh. Well. I guess so. Heh. :D
Random bsod with win8 and back to win7.
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00dwan: I am not a fan of metro and it makes certain functions much more complicated like getting to advanced settings for wi-fi (e.g. adding invisible SSID manually). You can't just right click and go to properties, because anything like that simply takes you to the metro ui settings for wifi which has no advanced functions.
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ChrisSD: Right click the Network icon in the system tray and go "Open Network and Sharing Center".
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/manage-wireless-network-profiles

I had to use the command line. I was trying to delete a profile of an invisible SSID where I had entered the wrong password.
Just removed Office 2013 and reinstalled 2010. I just could not stand that flat and ugly UI any longer. That and the little program that runs in your system tray. I do not ever want to upload my documents to the "cloud", and yeah I could have gone through and turned it off.
The other PITA with it was my Sys Admin, for whatever reason, is blocking Outlook 2013 from using the exchange server. So, I had to resort to using outlook 2010 while trying the rest of Office 2013 programs.
It looks like Office 2010 is the best of the current crop of office suites, and I will most likely skip any of the newer ones from here on out...unless of course our Sys Admin decides to block everything but Outlook 2013 and newer.
Post edited March 21, 2014 by jjsimp
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DalekSec: With steam games is another matter, since steam not create real shortcuts, instead steam create URL's that direct to the game, and you cannot pin URL's to the start screen if isn't trought the modern ui version of IE.
Is fault of both, Steam and MS, of Steam for not create real shortcuts, and of MS for stupid limitations.
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Leroux: What you can do is figure out the game's ID by checking the properties of the 'false' Steam shortcut, then create a shortcut of the steam.exe itself and add "-applaunch [game ID]" as a starting paramenter. After that you will be able to pin it to the metro screen, too. It works fine, but it's very roundabout.
Another option is to take the Steam shortcut, put it into a start menu folder (the start menu directory structure is still there), then in the All Programs view the shortcuts will show up there and you can pin to start from there. It's only trying to pin the Steam shortcuts from desktop that doesn't work.
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Turjake: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
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ChrisSD: This is why I still use Windows 95.
haha ;)
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jjsimp: Just removed Office 2013 and reinstalled 2010. I just could not stand that flat and ugly UI any longer. That and the little program that runs in your system tray. I do not ever want to upload my documents to the "cloud", and yeah I could have gone through and turned it off.
The other PITA with it was my Sys Admin, for whatever reason, is blocking Outlook 2013 from using the exchange server. So, I had to resort to using outlook 2010 while trying the rest of Office 2013 programs.
It looks like Office 2010 is the best of the current crop of office suites, and I will most likely skip any of the newer ones from here on out...unless of course our Sys Admin decides to block everything but Outlook 2013 and newer.
Is Mozilla Thunderbird a no go?
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jjsimp: The other PITA with it was my Sys Admin, for whatever reason, is blocking Outlook 2013 from using the exchange server. So, I had to resort to using outlook 2010 while trying the rest of Office 2013 programs.
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Darvond: Is Mozilla Thunderbird a no go?
I didn't think Thunderbird supported exchange servers, but even if it did my Sys Admin would have probably blocked that as well.
Got used to it. the metro layout is complete nonsense and simply makes no sense compared to old start menu but I only use it at the moment to start IE when I need to watch some stuff on my second monitor but I can't do that in FF. When I start computer i just press FF icon which starts FF and goes straight to desktop.

Otherwise it works like XP did. I moved from it to Win8 and got used to turning off computer by using right corner menu. which is also very convenient for playing with two screens (turning off my main smaller screen so I can watch movie on bigger one and then switching back to two screens) not sure how it is done in Win7 but it takes around 3 seconds to control what is being shown on each screen.

first seeing Win8 is jarring but meh. ain't as bad as I thought.
Windows 8 is alright from what i have seen and messed around with but i am hesitant to upgrade. What is the Backward compatibility for games like?
I've had a win 8 laptop for about a year now. If I were coming strait from XP then I might think the bevy of advancement and shiny things to be a step forward, but up from Win7 (and even linux environments) my enthusiasm is tempered.

Metro is just an obnoxious sort of thing. I get that touch devices are a big thing, and that MS was hoping for a single, unified solution for both mobile and desktop worlds. I suppose I should even cut them a little slack for not getting it perfect on the first try, but... It is obvious they tossed the desktop experience into the back seat. Even in the little things like the messages that say "tap here to..." It's your DT OS and you couldn't even be inclusive enough of your user base to say "touch or click " instead?

And do I really need to remap all my default applications to keep the thing from leaping out of my desktop to give me some full screen app experience I don't really want? If I open a jpg it wants to app mode the image. With picture viewer I could then move about the folder looking at any other images, but the default behavior has me looking at the one image in app mode that I then have to go to an increased amount of trouble to close. I can't look at the other images, and the whole thing takes more time to launch and wind down all while offering me a less powerful experience.

If we lived in a world where tablets were generally powerful enough to be a primary device you docked at home to work on after you were done poking and swiping about, then I could see the hybrid approach being beneficial. But right now it tends to be an either or situation, and all they did was toss mobile interaction into people's faces and then dismiss the annoyance as something someone ought to just slide out of the way if they didn't like it.

I've also had a number of compatibility issues, but maybe that is just me.

The having to link it to an account feels weird to me.

On the whole I just don't like it. It offers me zero benefits, while making it more cumbersome, and less intuitive to do the same things I used to do. On the laptop I can generally forget about the differences since I tend to end up right where I was, so I have that going for me.

I will say I like my Win8 phone alight. But then I don't really need it to do anything special, which is good because it doesn't. It was cheap, super responsive, and the touch screen is flawless. That said, I don't wan't it on a tablet. Probably not even if they were cheaper and didn't weigh as much as a brick.
Post edited March 21, 2014 by gooberking
I'll upgrade to Win9 if they allow you to disable the Metro interface and go back to the old desktop.
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Crosmando: I'll upgrade to Win9 if they allow you to disable the Metro interface and go back to the old desktop.
Indeed, I just bought a new laptop today, it uses Windows 8.1, It seems to be more of the same, from Windows 8.