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Hi folks. I am building a new system and I l already bought a Nividia GTX 960 with Witcher 3 which should be able to run the game on high settings with a reasonable framerate. The system will be a AMD one. The question is now: Should I go for an 8-core like the FX 8320 (8x 3.5 GHz) / FX 8350 (8x 4.0 GHz) or an older 4/6-core with more GHZ like FX 4350 (4x 4.2 GHz) or FX 6350 (6x 3.9 GHz). I read that the game uses 4 cores at most, more don't seem to deliver more FPS. But the gamecard says that the FX 8350 is recommended. Since I have no understanding of CPU architecture, could someone knowledgeable please enlighten me?

Thanks a lot.
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patthefatrat: Hi folks. I am building a new system and I l already bought a Nividia GTX 960 with Witcher 3 which should be able to run the game on high settings with a reasonable framerate. The system will be a AMD one. The question is now: Should I go for an 8-core like the FX 8320 (8x 3.5 GHz) / FX 8350 (8x 4.0 GHz) or an older 4/6-core with more GHZ like FX 4350 (4x 4.2 GHz) or FX 6350 (6x 3.9 GHz). I read that the game uses 4 cores at most, more don't seem to deliver more FPS. But the gamecard says that the FX 8350 is recommended. Since I have no understanding of CPU architecture, could someone knowledgeable please enlighten me?

Thanks a lot.
Not sure if I can answer on architecture. the FX 8350 is the same exact processor as the FX 8320, only difference is that on the FX 8350 it is clocked at 4GHz out of the box for you, its a guarantee type of thing. But you can overclock either one yourself. I would recommend the FX 8350, i got mine on sale new for $140 on amazon. Overall it is the main go to AMD processor. I used to have the FX 6300 and upgraded, I don't think there is much difference, maybe a few seconds on certain processes/rendering. Though I mainly upgraded to the FX 8350 because I also got a GTX 970, and I didn't think the FX 6300 would perform as well, though a big portion of people online says it can.
I currently use the FX 8350 @4.3GHz. When playing The Witcher 3, it uses around average 60-70% of the processor. To give you another example, Battlefield 4 uses around average 80% of the processor, whenever I benchmark it with windows performance monitor. Keep in mind I also have music playing, and other minor stuff running in the background, though non of that should add up to much.
Here's a pic of my CPU, not making it up. If you can get the FX 8350 cheap on sale, I'd get that one. Should be going on sale during the fathers day weekend on newegg, amazon, tigerdirect, ebay.
I also have 16GBs of Memory RAM, so that helps out a bit too.
EDIT: I guess I should warn ahead of time, if you plan on overclocking, prepare for CPU temperatures to rise, especially with the stock cooler. I would still recommend the FX 8350 if you're dead on with picking AMD, since it's already clocked at 4.0GHz. I'm using the Cooler Master Evo 212 heat sink, and now that it's summer time or close to, cpu is getting nice and warm, more than usual.
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Post edited June 08, 2015 by BunnySavior
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patthefatrat: Hi folks. I am building a new system and I l already bought a Nividia GTX 960 with Witcher 3 which should be able to run the game on high settings with a reasonable framerate. The system will be a AMD one. The question is now: Should I go for an 8-core like the FX 8320 (8x 3.5 GHz) / FX 8350 (8x 4.0 GHz) or an older 4/6-core with more GHZ like FX 4350 (4x 4.2 GHz) or FX 6350 (6x 3.9 GHz). I read that the game uses 4 cores at most, more don't seem to deliver more FPS. But the gamecard says that the FX 8350 is recommended. Since I have no understanding of CPU architecture, could someone knowledgeable please enlighten me?

Thanks a lot.
Selection of motherboard is important. For instance, a motherboard like mine, the MSI 970 Gaming, uses the 970 AMD chipset and for that board you should either go with an FX-6300 6-core or an FX-8320E 8-core, because both of these are 95W TDP processors and as such any 970-chipset board should have no trouble accommodating them *and* allowing for substantial overclocks, too.

If you should decide on a 125W TDP cpu, like the FX-6350 or the FX-8350/70, then you'll need a 990FX chipset motherboard, which will support 125W cpus and their overclocking, too. A motherboard like the new MSI 990FX Gaming motherboard would suffice--highly recommended.

The 95W cpus use less power, generate less heat, cost less and are excellent overclockers--my older fX-6300 clocked to 4.3Ghz ROOB on the stock voltage setting with stock fan; my current FX-8320E clocks to 4.2 GHZ on all 8 cores with ease. But the 125W cpus should run faster at factory clocks and should overclock more--but they cost more and may run hotter than their 95W TDP cousins.

Hope this helps!
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BunnySavior: EDIT: I guess I should warn ahead of time, if you plan on overclocking, prepare for CPU temperatures to rise, especially with the stock cooler. I would still recommend the FX 8350 if you're dead on with picking AMD, since it's already clocked at 4.0GHz. I'm using the Cooler Master Evo 212 heat sink, and now that it's summer time or close to, cpu is getting nice and warm, more than usual.
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waltc: If you should decide on a 125W TDP cpu, like the FX-6350 or the FX-8350/70, then you'll need a 990FX chipset motherboard, which will support 125W cpus and their overclocking, too. A motherboard like the new MSI 990FX Gaming motherboard would suffice--highly recommended.
Although neither of you both REALLY answered my question you were still helpful. I decided to go with the FX-8350, the ASRock FX 990 board and a Scythe Grand Kama Cross 2 for cooling. Thanks a lot
Personally I'm running a 990fx-a-ud3 Gigabyte board with an amd 9370BE cpu(4.2gzx8core) and 16gb of Mushkin Redline DDR3. The GPU is a bit dated(ATI 5870 1gb) and I'm running custom settings which is a blend of ultra and high settings. Your gpu is going to be a greater factor in the settings than the cpu will be.
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patthefatrat: Hi folks. I am building a new system and I l already bought a Nividia GTX 960 with Witcher 3 which should be able to run the game on high settings with a reasonable framerate. The system will be a AMD one. The question is now: Should I go for an 8-core like the FX 8320 (8x 3.5 GHz) / FX 8350 (8x 4.0 GHz) or an older 4/6-core with more GHZ like FX 4350 (4x 4.2 GHz) or FX 6350 (6x 3.9 GHz). I read that the game uses 4 cores at most, more don't seem to deliver more FPS. But the gamecard says that the FX 8350 is recommended. Since I have no understanding of CPU architecture, could someone knowledgeable please enlighten me?

Thanks a lot.
I have an AMD FX8350 bought 2.5 years ago and with The Witcher 3 running with Firefox with 160 web pages open in the background and Chrome open with about 50 web pages, Steam client and Galaxy client both running, Hexchat, Mozilla Thunderbird, a dozen systray applets, Utorrent downloading Linux ISO images and a second monitor with Windows Resource Monitor running my total CPU usage while in-game varies from 15-20% tops at 2560x1600 resolution.

In short, the game doesn't use anywhere near as much CPU resources as the CPU recommendation states. With identical video hardware you shouldn't even notice a difference in-game with the 8350 versus 8320.

Another thing I should mention is that most games only use 2-4 cores effectively in a multi-core system at best. Even if they parallelize to 8 cores just because they're there, they tend to use a far lower percentage of each core's full computing resources. I have yet to see any game that both uses 8 cores and actually maxes out more than one or two of the cores. In most games that I have seen which can even use more than 2 cores, only one core is maxed out at 100% or so usage and any other cores the game uses are idling at 5-20% usage maximum anyway. The reason for this is that a lot of the work a game has to do is not inherently parallelizeable, so getting 8-way parallelization from any game engine to the point where it can fully max out every single core in a system is just unlikely at least with today's games.

What multiple cores does bring to the table, is a practical guarantee of sorts that a game will have a few cores to itself if it needs them and can actually utilize them effectively while the OS shoves all other background tasks etc. onto other cores.

Having said that, you'd most likely find a 4 core processor running at 4GHz to be faster in any given game than an 8 core processor running at 3.8GHz or lower. In this case, the GHz wins because the extra cores do not get utilized at all, or if they do they are just "token usage", in other words the OS will spread threads across to them but it isn't useful. If you have say 3 threads of a game running each using 5% max resources on one core, all three threads could run on one core quite effectively using 15% of the core, or the OS could push them each onto their own core. In either case they will run at the same speed and underutilize whatever core they're on. Additionally, threads spread across more cores instead of all running on one core could actually lower performance by causing cache thrashing - unless of course the application was written to be optimized for that not to be an issue.

In short though, for gaming up to 4 cores is more than adequate and CPU clock is the king. More than 4 cores just give smoother overall system performance with plenty of CPU resources to share with other apps. For the Witcher 3 specifically though, on the CPUs you referenced - the game barely even uses the CPU in my observation and the GPU becomes the bottleneck ultimately. I've got an AMD Radeon HD7850 and I get decent enough results with it even though it's below-spec, but it's definitely my limiting factor for sure.

If you've only got so much money to go around, save a bit of money on the CPU if you have to and pour the cash into a better GPU, you'll get a higher frame rate with more fancy pants graphics for sure.

Hope this helps.
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skeletonbow: ...
Wow, that was a very comprehensive answer. So the FX 4350 with 4 cores at 4.2 GHz would have been the gamers choice and would have been nearly 100,- € cheaper. Damn, that would also have enabled me to buy the GTX 970 with the surplus money. Ah crap, if only I'd read that 2 days earlier.