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This Hori product, which is about as close as one gets to being a first party accessory while still being third party, shows the willfulness and distance Nintendo is willing to go to meet the needs and desires of the gamer.



...For those of you in the dark, let me explain.

Nintendo, rather than logically having their lobby and voice communication built into the Nintendo Switch, have decided that the path of the logical industry standard is not the one to follow and instead is planning to make an app for smartphones for the chat and voice solution, which isn't arbitrary, redundant or flat out useless in this age.

...This is part of an online subscription, by the way. So in order for consumers to have both the voice and game audio in one audio point, this is their idiotic solution. Which costs you monthly, instead of just using Discord, or Hades himself help you, Skype.

So, what do you think? Do you have hope that this entire idea will be dropped and thrown in the garbage?
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Darvond: This Hori product, which is about as close as one gets to being a first party accessory while still being third party, shows the willfulness and distance Nintendo is willing to go to meet the needs and desires of the gamer.

...For those of you in the dark, let me explain.

Nintendo, rather than logically having their lobby and voice communication built into the Nintendo Switch, have decided that the path of the logical industry standard is not the one to follow and instead is planning to make an app for smartphones for the chat and voice solution, which isn't arbitrary, redundant or flat out useless in this age.

...This is part of an online subscription, by the way. So in order for consumers to have both the voice and game audio in one audio point, this is their idiotic solution. Which costs you monthly, instead of just using Discord, or Hades himself help you, Skype.

So, what do you think? Do you have hope that this entire idea will be dropped and thrown in the garbage?
Hopefully, Nintendo will soon progress to the way voice chat in online games was in 2000, when the Sega Dreamcast had voice chat with a headset while you played online games.

But I'm not holding my breath because Nintendo seems to be going backward instead of forward when it comes to matters of common sense. Another example: You could transfer your saved-game files off of the Wii or WiiU hard drive, to play them on another console. But you can't do that with Switch save files. You also can't save data directly on to the game cards. You could do that on the NES in 1985, for goodness sake!
Post edited June 02, 2017 by aJillSandwich
classic Nintendo :D
"For your convenience"
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Darvond: This Hori product, which is about as close as one gets to being a first party accessory while still being third party, shows the willfulness and distance Nintendo is willing to go to meet the needs and desires of the gamer.
...That is pants-on-head retarded.
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Darvond: So, what do you think? Do you have hope that this entire idea will be dropped and thrown in the garbage?
Honestly, I don't care. I'm not a Nintendo user and never have been. Looking at what Nintendo does from an outside perspective, it seems to me that they are run by a bunch of dimwits. You'd think that would have driven them out of business long ago, but they have had such huge successes over the years (even while their actions testify that they have no idea why they were successful) that they have so much money that they could do nothing but fuck up completely for the next 50 years and still not go under.
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aJillSandwich: Hopefully, Nintendo will soon progress to the way voice chat in online games was in 2000, when the Sega Dreamcast had voice chat with a headset while you played online games.

But I'm not holding my breath because Nintendo seems to be going backward instead of forward when it comes to matters of common sense. Another example: You could transfer your saved-game files off of the Wii or WiiU hard drive, to play them on another console. But you can't do that with Switch save files. You also can't save data directly on to the game cards. You could do that on the NES in 1985, for goodness sake!
I'm not holding my breath either. This would be entirely possible on the Switch.
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Klumpen0815: "For your convenience"
Docked mode, iPhone 7, crappy old cellphones, no smartphone. Now what?
Post edited June 02, 2017 by Darvond
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TT_TT_TT_TT: classic Nintendo :D
No, classic Nintendo was competent.
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Wishbone: ...That is pants-on-head retarded. Honestly, I don't care. I'm not a Nintendo user and never have been. Looking at what Nintendo does from an outside perspective, it seems to me that they are run by a bunch of dimwits. You'd think that would have driven them out of business long ago, but they have had such huge successes over the years (even while their actions testify that they have no idea why they were successful) that they have so much money that they could do nothing but fuck up completely for the next 50 years and still not go under.
They're prolific at software. They're just terrible at everything else.
Post edited June 02, 2017 by Darvond
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TT_TT_TT_TT: classic Nintendo :D
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Darvond: No, classic Nintendo was competent.
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Wishbone: ...That is pants-on-head retarded. Honestly, I don't care. I'm not a Nintendo user and never have been. Looking at what Nintendo does from an outside perspective, it seems to me that they are run by a bunch of dimwits. You'd think that would have driven them out of business long ago, but they have had such huge successes over the years (even while their actions testify that they have no idea why they were successful) that they have so much money that they could do nothing but fuck up completely for the next 50 years and still not go under.
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Darvond: They're prolific at software. They're just terrible at everything else.
True ^^ - well rather classic nowadays Nintendo then ^^ meaning the last 5 years
Good old wacky uncle nintendo. They'll invent time travel. Just you watch!
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Darvond: They're prolific at software. They're just terrible at everything else.
So prolific that they can't figure out how to code a VOIP application for their own goddamn hardware platform ;-)

Or is the real issue that they actually forgot to include a microphone input in the hardware itself? That would be hilarious!
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Wishbone: So prolific that they can't figure out how to code a VOIP application for their own goddamn hardware platform ;-)

Or is the real issue that they actually forgot to include a microphone input in the hardware itself? That would be hilarious!
Apparently, it doesn't have a Microphone, which is baffling, considering the Microphone has been a slapped on gimmick on Nintendo systems since the DS.
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aJillSandwich: Hopefully, Nintendo will soon progress to the way voice chat in online games was in 2000, when the Sega Dreamcast had voice chat with a headset while you played online games.

But I'm not holding my breath because Nintendo seems to be going backward instead of forward when it comes to matters of common sense. Another example: You could transfer your saved-game files off of the Wii or WiiU hard drive, to play them on another console. But you can't do that with Switch save files. You also can't save data directly on to the game cards. You could do that on the NES in 1985, for goodness sake!
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Darvond: I'm not holding my breath either. This would be entirely possible on the Switch.
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Klumpen0815: "For your convenience"
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Darvond: Docked mode, iPhone 7, crappy old cellphones, no smartphone. Now what?
No smart-phone, no Switch, no worries.
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Wishbone: So prolific that they can't figure out how to code a VOIP application for their own goddamn hardware platform ;-)

Or is the real issue that they actually forgot to include a microphone input in the hardware itself? That would be hilarious!
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Darvond: Apparently, it doesn't have a Microphone, which is baffling, considering the Microphone has been a slapped on gimmick on Nintendo systems since the DS.
It doesn't have to actually have a built-in microphone, as long as the headphone jack has the extra connection for one (and the internal hardware actually supports it of course). If the limitation truly is that there is no way to actually connect a microphone to the damn thing, then they are even more pants-on-head retarded than I thought. How can you design a console in this day and age with no facilities for audio input whatsoever?
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Wishbone: It doesn't have to actually have a built-in microphone, as long as the headphone jack has the extra connection for one (and the internal hardware actually supports it of course). If the limitation truly is that there is no way to actually connect a microphone to the damn thing, then they are even more pants-on-head retarded than I thought. How can you design a console in this day and age with no facilities for audio input whatsoever?
Now, that I'm not certain of. I'd have to go look into that as I don't want to shell out for what is in essence, a slightly beefed up Nvidia Shield tablet with some strange controls.
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Wishbone: It doesn't have to actually have a built-in microphone, as long as the headphone jack has the extra connection for one (and the internal hardware actually supports it of course). If the limitation truly is that there is no way to actually connect a microphone to the damn thing, then they are even more pants-on-head retarded than I thought. How can you design a console in this day and age with no facilities for audio input whatsoever?
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Darvond: Now, that I'm not certain of. I'd have to go look into that as I don't want to shell out for what is in essence, a slightly beefed up Nvidia Shield tablet with some strange controls.
Well, I looked into it, and it seems that it does actually support microphone input, in which case the "solution" they've come up with for voice chat is even more ridiculous.

The only feasible explanation I can imagine is that they are afraid that running a voice chat client on the thing itself will take so many resources that game performance will suffer.