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I've noticed some folks get followed around by the downvote fairies, so they are downvoted even when they post about their own life in a subject asking questions about it.

So far i've done a single upvote, and thats it.
Post edited June 30, 2019 by DetouR6734
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GameRager: If people downrate people with "political" pictures or titles then they have a serious problem they need to deal with in how thin their skin is and how easy they get upset, imo.
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Breja: Or, you know, people who can't stop repeating the same vitriolic flame wars over and over again and need to constantly fly the colors of their particular bunch of morons to troll the other bunch of morons have a serious problem and should fuck off and stay fucked.

Seriously, there's plenty of places on the internet devoted to this shit - go and have those fights there. Why do people need to bring this shit up here is beyond me, but I know for a fact that it's what turned this place from one of the nicest communities I've seen online into just another dumpster fire.
1. I get that and if they bring it here via a ton of posts/threads about such & really bring it in people's faces the sure......people should downvote such who dislike that....but downvoting those who just have such as avatars or titles seems to be overkill to me.

2. This site/forums is miles above places like some worse parts of reddit/steam forums, imo.
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GameRager: If people downrate people with "political" pictures or titles then they have a serious problem they need to deal with in how thin their skin is and how easy they get upset, imo.
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AB2012: I'm not justifying or encouraging it, simply observing that one man's "everyone must have thin skin for not wanting to hear about my politics on non-political forums", etc, is another man's "'Sensitivity' has nothing to do with it. There's a time and a place for everything and GOG is not Fox vs MSNBC..." I've seen it before in other gaming forums where a lot of people tend to play video games as a break or respite from the world, also see gaming forums the same way. This is why some gaming / tech site forums have a special "Politics" sub-forum separate from the General one - it's not to encourage more political talk, but rather they use it as a 'dumping ground' for those who just can't stop talking about politics on every forum anyway, that's more easily filterable for everyone else.

People can choose whatever avatars or signatures they like, start whatever topics they like, write what they like, etc. But it's fairly obvious that some members "followings" started with "taking a firm stance" on a political topic that ends up turning into a 'this person belongs to x political tribe' reputation that gets downvoted by people belonging to tribe y that 'carries over' to non-political topics. Then on top of that you get a large group of neutrals who are just tired of the encroachment of politics on forums that shouldn't even be political by nature. Personally I'm stunned that people think the solution to this is to hide the symptom without addressing the problem...
1. I was mainly talking in general but thanks for the reply.

Imo(as I just said to breja) if someone is subtle about it(just has it in their avatar or title) and doesn't talk about it if ever then imo people shouldn't mass downvote such people or get upset over such. Yes, people come here/to other sites to get away from IRL but as long as others aren't forcing one to read/consume their views and sick to board policy I see no reason to worry about such.

2. People always assume forums should only be about what the site is about and nothing else.....as if we didn;t have enough division online. This isn't to say it's alwys a bad thing, just that always saying x belongs here or y belongs there as some do seems counterproductive at best.
Post edited June 30, 2019 by GameRager
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DadJoke007: The rep system is stupid anyway, might as well ignore it if it doesn't get removed. It doesn't contribute anything to the discussions, which should be the core of any discussion forum. On the opposite, the rep system cripples the discussions since some people abstain from writing with fear of being downvoted.

The karma system on Reddit is even worse, better keep in line if you don't wanna end up looking like a total troll and lose all your hard-earned karma. Also, it encourages people to reach for low-hanging fruit that everyone will like. An example would be bashing the right things to gain the approval of the group, that would equal more karma.

Social media is raising a generation of conformists.
Being liked and having an audience is the most important thing to younger people. They'll deny it, of course. But actions speak louder than words, and piling on perceived outrage to score bonus points with the virtue signalling crowd is a favorite pass time.
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Is Extreme Downvoting going to be part of the next X-Games?

I prefer Extreme Ironing myself, and yes, that is a real sport.
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Is Extreme Downvoting going to be part of the next X-Games?

I prefer Extreme Ironing myself, and yes, that is a real sport.
I assumed they were talking about these "fine" lads and lasses
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GameRager: 2. People always assume forums should only be about what the site is about and nothing else.....as if we didn;t have enough division online. This isn't to say it's alwys a bad thing, just that always saying x belongs here or y belongs there as some do seems counterproductive at best.
Counterproductive to what?
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DetouR6734: I've noticed some folks get followed around by the downvote fairies, so they are downvoted even when they post about their own life in a subject asking questions about it.

So far i've done a single upvote, and thats it.
I have gotten downvoted for the following:

Thanking people for entering my contests and wishing them good luck

Talking about my passed grandfather who had eye trouble

Making jokes that were polite/civil to make people laugh in appropriate threads

Making threads for science/paranormal news

Making a good news thread(this one got flak because apparently free speech is politics and it was the subject of the first post) to cheer people up

Talking about what media I like in some threads(again, I was being civil and stayed ontopic)

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I have also had most of my posts downrated in many threads I start(with the exception of contests, but that is likely due to others upvoting those, and some other threads here and there).

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GameRager: 2. People always assume forums should only be about what the site is about and nothing else.....as if we didn;t have enough division online. This isn't to say it's alwys a bad thing, just that always saying x belongs here or y belongs there as some do seems counterproductive at best.
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paladin181: Counterproductive to what?
To bringing communities together and allowing them to explore each other's interests....if one has to go to multiple forums for various topics it becomes more cumbersome to keep track of online friends/acquaintences and also your own logins/etc for each site(if any are needed)

I mean what fun is it to meet others on one site and want to talk about other things you may like that they do as well if you have to keep switching sites(and names) to do it?
Post edited June 30, 2019 by GameRager
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GameRager: To bringing communities together and allowing them to explore each other's interests....if one has to go to multiple forums for various topics it becomes more cumbersome to keep track of online friends/acquaintences and also your own logins/etc for each site(if any are needed)

I mean what fun is it to meet others on one site and want to talk about other things you may like that they do as well if you have to keep switching sites(and names) to do it?
Time to face the unpleasant reality that many people don't care if you like Trump or Alex Jones, or if you follow the outrage mob on twitter and think Gay and transgender rights are the most important issues ever. The people getting downvoted think we care, and are upset to learn their opinion on such matters isn't wanted. Many people here don't give two rats fucking about your political leaning or how you spend your free time. We want to talk about games and gaming. It's not counter productive to us. Call me hypocritical for participating in such threads in the past. I still do sometimes. But the reality is that if they weren't there, I wouldn't be making them. The same is true of A LOT of forum goers. I know who I talk to, if I want to learn more about them, I'll Chat them. Ask TinyE. We talk. And despite the fact that our political tendencies are very different, we can still agree on many things.

But most of the people here who post flamebait threads to try and force feed their political agenda down the throats of others here then complain about being downvoted and about freedom of speech. Freedom of speech means you can say what you want. Others are allowed to think you an asshole, and express their freedom of speech to tell you.
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GameRager: To bringing communities together and allowing them to explore each other's interests....if one has to go to multiple forums for various topics it becomes more cumbersome to keep track of online friends/acquaintences and also your own logins/etc for each site(if any are needed)

I mean what fun is it to meet others on one site and want to talk about other things you may like that they do as well if you have to keep switching sites(and names) to do it?
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paladin181: Time to face the unpleasant reality that many people don't care if you like Trump or Alex Jones, or if you follow the outrage mob on twitter and think Gay and transgender rights are the most important issues ever. The people getting downvoted think we care, and are upset to learn their opinion on such matters isn't wanted. Many people here don't give two rats fucking about your political leaning or how you spend your free time. We want to talk about games and gaming. It's not counter productive to us. Call me hypocritical for participating in such threads in the past. I still do sometimes. But the reality is that if they weren't there, I wouldn't be making them. The same is true of A LOT of forum goers. I know who I talk to, if I want to learn more about them, I'll Chat them. Ask TinyE. We talk. And despite the fact that our political tendencies are very different, we can still agree on many things.

But most of the people here who post flamebait threads to try and force feed their political agenda down the throats of others here then complain about being downvoted and about freedom of speech. Freedom of speech means you can say what you want. Others are allowed to think you an asshole, and express their freedom of speech to tell you.
Depends why you think the person is an arsehole, i've been on such forums where they allowed debates, even when they got heated, even if we all disagreed, it doesn't mean we always disagreed, it didn't automatically make me hate them, they were decent people with different opinions as far as the internet goes.
We left each subject where we agreed to disagree and that was it, the next post we'd be making jokes etc.

We didn't follow people around downvoting them, yeah there was a like button and that was it.

Like GameRager, i can't say i agree with him, but i don't chase him around the forum with a shit stick, poking that downvote button whenever GameRager posts something.. Lol.

Aslong as you keep that disagreement to the subject at hand, you won't have a problem.
Post edited June 30, 2019 by DetouR6734
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GameRager: To bringing communities together and allowing them to explore each other's interests....if one has to go to multiple forums for various topics it becomes more cumbersome to keep track of online friends/acquaintences and also your own logins/etc for each site(if any are needed)

I mean what fun is it to meet others on one site and want to talk about other things you may like that they do as well if you have to keep switching sites(and names) to do it?
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paladin181: Time to face the unpleasant reality that many people don't care if you like Trump or Alex Jones, or if you follow the outrage mob on twitter and think Gay and transgender rights are the most important issues ever. The people getting downvoted think we care, and are upset to learn their opinion on such matters isn't wanted. Many people here don't give two rats fucking about your political leaning or how you spend your free time. We want to talk about games and gaming. It's not counter productive to us. Call me hypocritical for participating in such threads in the past. I still do sometimes. But the reality is that if they weren't there, I wouldn't be making them. The same is true of A LOT of forum goers. I know who I talk to, if I want to learn more about them, I'll Chat them. Ask TinyE. We talk. And despite the fact that our political tendencies are very different, we can still agree on many things.

But most of the people here who post flamebait threads to try and force feed their political agenda down the throats of others here then complain about being downvoted and about freedom of speech. Freedom of speech means you can say what you want. Others are allowed to think you an asshole, and express their freedom of speech to tell you.
1. Some care, though, or they wouldn't post to such threads and contribute.

Of course it's also likely a good number don 't care....that's just how numbers work.

2. Flamebait threads(true flamebait and not just what some dislike to see/read) I can understand getting upset about, but there doesn't seem to be that much of that here(compared to other gaming/etc forums at least).

Also yes people are free to tell others what they think, but most just randomly silently downvote and move one without comment or saying what they found objectionable and why, which solves nothing if trying to teach those they find objectionable a lesson was the point behind downvoting. Also others sometimes flame those simply posting about things they dislike instead of downvoting the OP post/reporting the thread and moving on.....adding to the problems they claim to dislike/not want to be a part of.

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In the end, what I want to know is this: What happened to the past where if one didn't like something they ignored it or didn't watch/consume it? It's not that hard to ignore most threads one dislikes anyways as they usually have descriptive titles(and if one goes into a thread with a confusing title they should expect anything).

Nowadays some seem to like going into threads on subjects they dislike to downvote each new post by some while also exposing themselves to things they will likely not want to see....all so they can vent without teaching anything to those they find disagreeable.
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- 2k,thanks snakes:)
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Tauto: - 2k,thanks snakes:)
You are actually at -1.7k.....stop bragging ahead of time already. ;D
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Tauto: - 2k,thanks snakes:)
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GameRager: You are actually at -1.7k.....stop bragging ahead of time already. ;D
I'll believe it when I see it. He's been slacking for the last year.
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GameRager: You are actually at -1.7k.....stop bragging ahead of time already. ;D
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richlind33: I'll believe it when I see it. He's been slacking for the last year.
I've actually been....GASP....UPVOTING his good/constructive/funny posts. Maybe that'll teach him to enjoy his negarep while it lasts. o.0
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paladin181: Time to face the unpleasant reality that many people don't care if you like Trump or Alex Jones, or if you follow the outrage mob on twitter and think Gay and transgender rights are the most important issues ever. The people getting downvoted think we care, and are upset to learn their opinion on such matters isn't wanted. Many people here don't give two rats fucking about your political leaning or how you spend your free time. We want to talk about games and gaming. It's not counter productive to us. Call me hypocritical for participating in such threads in the past. I still do sometimes. But the reality is that if they weren't there, I wouldn't be making them. The same is true of A LOT of forum goers. I know who I talk to, if I want to learn more about them, I'll Chat them. Ask TinyE. We talk. And despite the fact that our political tendencies are very different, we can still agree on many things.

But most of the people here who post flamebait threads to try and force feed their political agenda down the throats of others here then complain about being downvoted and about freedom of speech. Freedom of speech means you can say what you want. Others are allowed to think you an asshole, and express their freedom of speech to tell you.
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GameRager: 1. Some care, though, or they wouldn't post to such threads and contribute.

Of course it's also likely a good number don 't care....that's just how numbers work.

2. Flamebait threads(true flamebait and not just what some dislike to see/read) I can understand getting upset about, but there doesn't seem to be that much of that here(compared to other gaming/etc forums at least).

Also yes people are free to tell others what they think, but most just randomly silently downvote and move one without comment or saying what they found objectionable and why, which solves nothing if trying to teach those they find objectionable a lesson was the point behind downvoting. Also others sometimes flame those simply posting about things they dislike instead of downvoting the OP post/reporting the thread and moving on.....adding to the problems they claim to dislike/not want to be a part of.

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In the end, what I want to know is this: What happened to the past where if one didn't like something they ignored it or didn't watch/consume it? It's not that hard to ignore most threads one dislikes anyways as they usually have descriptive titles(and if one goes into a thread with a confusing title they should expect anything).

Nowadays some seem to like going into threads on subjects they dislike to downvote each new post by some while also exposing themselves to things they will likely not want to see....all so they can vent without teaching anything to those they find disagreeable.
You're under the mistaken impression that they want to engage people at all. Even well meaning engagement like mine often degenerates into name-calling and pointless argument. The entire point of those is to NOT engage the overly extreme political types because engagement is what those want. They revel in the attention. And tryingbbto explain to them why you don't like it leads to them doubling down on rhetoric with a religious fervor. You can't argue it with them because logic doesn't matter. Salient pojjnts don't matter. Just that they're right and the rest of the world is too blind and full of sheep to realize that "they" are taking away your freedom or "they" are oppressing you and taking your rights away. You can't reason with reglious level fear mongering. So rather than edify people who will refuse to see things from your point of view, or even entertain that their point could be perceived as incorrect, they elect to silently show their displeasure and move on.