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tinyE: If that's the case, then there is another army of bots doing it to me. :P
More likely people just dislike you (similar to Tauto) though you're SJW and anti-trump sentiments are quite obvious with how you update your title/picture all the time.

More than once you've freaked out when i reply in other threads to you.
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tinyE: I have neither the interest nor the mental capacity to make a bot. I can barely operate a fucking toaster.
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clarry: But you can operate the hooved bots in your barn..? And they probably have not much to do all day long.. except maybe downvote ;3
We have a very simple pecking order here:

Cat > Donkeys > Dogs > Rabbit > Parents > Me
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clarry: But you can operate the hooved bots in your barn..? And they probably have not much to do all day long.. except maybe downvote ;3
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tinyE: We have a very simple pecking order here:

Cat > Donkeys > Dogs > Rabbit > Parents > Me
Soo.. cat is the mastermind, the rest of y'all are bots! And bunny & doggens are probably the "other bot army" that downvotes you. Mystery solved. That was simple... would I make a good detective?
Post edited June 29, 2019 by clarry
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tinyE: If that's the case, then there is another army of bots doing it to me. :P
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rtcvb32: More likely people just dislike you (similar to Tauto) though you're SJW and anti-trump sentiments are quite obvious with how you update your title/picture all the time.

More than once you've freaked out when i reply in other threads to you.
Me,down vote? Nah,waste of time and energy especially when some make alts just to pump it up. So,kindly don't put me in that class,thankyou.

Oh,and for the snakes that down vote.I need a small favour and that is reaching -2k.sssssssssssss
Post edited June 29, 2019 by Tauto
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The rep system is stupid anyway, might as well ignore it if it doesn't get removed. It doesn't contribute anything to the discussions, which should be the core of any discussion forum. On the opposite, the rep system cripples the discussions since some people abstain from writing with fear of being downvoted.

The karma system on Reddit is even worse, better keep in line if you don't wanna end up looking like a total troll and lose all your hard-earned karma. Also, it encourages people to reach for low-hanging fruit that everyone will like. An example would be bashing the right things to gain the approval of the group, that would equal more karma.

Social media is raising a generation of conformists.
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Yeshu: Anybody find it strange how some people get universally down voted on the forum for seemingly no reason?

I mean, sure, you get your usual a$$hole comment from time to time but it's always the same people and most of the time they don't say anything controversial or aggressive. It's like someone has a vendetta on these few specific people.
The "Rep" score on the forums is 100% completely meaningless and has been for years. Nobody uses it for anything meaningful because the entire Rep system is poorly designed and manipulated by people who use scripts to up/down vote others and GOG doesn't really do anything about it.

The only actual purpose the Rep score serves is to determine whether or not someone gets past GOG's spam filters or not (if it even still does that) in order to be able to post hyperlinks. Even that is fairly meaningless because it is well known you can easily bypass the spam filter by embedding any URLs inside of a false quote like this even if you have a low or negative Rep score: If anything at all, having a publicly visible Rep score in the forums does a lot more to damage the community, divide people, and give some a way to make others feel bad about their experience here or about themselves in general, than it does anything good or useful whatsoever. This topic comes up fairly often and nothing has changed about it in more than half a decade.

The best thing GOG could do at this point is to remove the Rep score completely, and replace the rate up/down buttons with a single "Report" button to report posts which are believed to violate GOG's terms of service agreement, and a dialogue that queries you as to what the violation/problem is giving multiple-choice options based on the actual terms of services, similar to how Twitch.tv does it. Then, when someone reports someone for a violation, keep track of an internal score nobody else can see in which if someone reports someone for a violation and it isn't a violation or just seems vindictive, they get a -1 to their internal score, and if they report a legit violation they get a +1 internal score.

Have all reports put in a queue, where each report is weighted based on the internal accumulated reputation of the people reporting posts, and act upon them in-order. Posts that are only reported by people with very low/negative scores get the lowest priority to investigate, and those who consistently issue false reports end up at some negative threshold eventually being completely untrusted in their ability to report legitimate violations.

If GOG implemented something like this, they would receive more useful reports that get higher priority to investigate and handle, and reports issued in bad judgment would get buried over time because the people who do it solely to attack someone vindictively would have a very low internal trust metric and end up buried in the queue not wasting GOG's time and resources.

Likewise, if someone's own posts get reported for violating the terms of service enough times and GOG confirms the reports, they could automate temporary or permanent suspensions from the forums for increasing lengths of time based on how often and to what degree someone violates the rules here.

This false sense of "reputation" in the forums would vanish, and people would either be less divisive and toxic on their own accord or end up over time being untrusted and potentially losing their ability to continue posting things that purely harass/intimidate others and/or violate the terms of service.

It isn't a priority for them to change the forum software likely however, as the commitment of developer resources to something only used by a minuscule number of customers isn't likely the best use of those finite resources in growing their business at the moment.

What would be nice though, is if they updated the forum code to at least not display the Rep score at all. That wouldn't prevent abuse of the up/down rating, but it would hide the virtual "reward" some people get out of abusing the system at least.
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I love these threads as we get one a week and snakieeeeees,I'm after that 2k.
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skeletonbow: If GOG implemented something like this, they would receive more useful reports
If GOG implemented it, they'd botch it up and none of us would know because the score is hidden.

It'd stay broken for years, and people would make forum threads asking why their reports never seem to be taken seriously. Sometime in 2025, a blue would butt in to tell that they're looking into it and that it'll be fixed Soon^TM. Come 2030, reports are still not going through and nobody has seen a post from that blue in the past two years. Bumping the thread where the problem was reported & blue responded will be met with sound of wind echoing in the valley of nothingness. And then it will be buried, to be remembered again on its tenth anniversary. But there will be news about Galaxy 6.0.
Post edited June 29, 2019 by clarry
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Yeshu: Anybody find it strange how some people get universally down voted on the forum for seemingly no reason?

I mean, sure, you get your usual a$$hole comment from time to time but it's always the same people and most of the time they don't say anything controversial or aggressive. It's like someone has a vendetta on these few specific people.
I and others get this a lot....usually because we hold opinions some dislike or make controversial threads that are allowed here but which some dislike.

People targeted a lot lately:

Moobot83, richlind33(they started getting hit when they started posting civil and constructive replies to my threads it seems), Fairfox(they post weird style of speaking and get hit for it), Tauto(he gets upset easily sometimes but often says nice things), TinyE(he trolls a lot but he often posts good stuff as well that gets downrated), and anyone who mentions the curation team/system or brings up the rep system problems.

There are others but those are the ones that come to mind right now.

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As for me, I have lost 200 or so rep(not worried about it but this is just an indicator of some people's obsession with me/against me) in 2 months or less. Usually I drop 5 rep max per day...even when i'm not here and lately on good/kind posts as well.

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MaceyNeil: If people are pissed off with what your saying, but are not clearly linked to a valid rebuttal of your key points; chances are your doing something right.
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sanscript: There are usually three types of downvoting "routines":

1. The kind of deserved downvoting by being an utter idiot/rude/personal attacks/excessive swearing/borderline genocidal etc.

2. The kind of non-deserved downvoting because you say/write something people gets (easily) offended by.

3. The kind of brainless war-like downvoting just because someone doesn't like you, and use every opportunity they can to downvote every post they come across.

And then we can discuss all we want whether or not someone are using a (spam)bot or not, or perhaps aggravating others to join their cause just because of a rumour.... This is sadly the new "norm", no matter where you venture. As I wrote in an another thread; the more you stick your head out the more of an enticing target you become. XD

The day GOG finally get their head out of the sand and remove the current rep system is going to be a brand new era!
You seem to hit the trolls where it hurts. This post was well written and polite yet it's low rated.
Post edited June 29, 2019 by GameRager
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If that's the case, then there is another army of bots doing it to me. :P
I regularly get downvoted for saying hello. Feel free to look around the forum and check. The difference is I don't put on a tinfoil hat and try to pawn it off on some conspiracy. I just walk away, because I really don't give a shit, and on a side note, I have neither the interest nor the mental capacity to make a bot. I can barely operate a fucking toaster. Shit, I don't even own a cell phone and I wouldn't know what to do with one if I did. XD

However this is all moot, because even if the Lord Jesus Christ came down and repeated what I just posted, you would still be convinced of your own paranoia. I leave you to it, and God Bless.
How do we know you don't downvote your own posts for sympathy/to hide your bots/alts?

Also fwiw I upvote your good posts all the time and try to be CIVIL to you, yet you have me on mental ignore for some reason because I did something that upset you awhile back.
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tinyE: If that's the case, then there is another army of bots doing it to me. :P
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rtcvb32: More likely people just dislike you (similar to Tauto) though you're SJW and anti-trump sentiments are quite obvious with how you update your title/picture all the time.

More than once you've freaked out when i reply in other threads to you.
The funny thing is he dislikes me replying to him and doesn;t want me to yet he replies in my threads all the time.....you'd think if he dislikes/disliked me he'd stay away from my threads. :|
Post edited June 29, 2019 by GameRager
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DadJoke007: Antisocial media is raising a generation of conformists.
FTFY.

There's nothing "social" about social media anymore, just censorship by the megacorporations and more censorship by inauthentic downvotes and stupid mob-downvote lemmings.

Downvotes are a cancer upon the internet. They do absolutely nothing to promote discussion, instead they're more like anonymous flaming where you are arbitrary punished because someone doesn't like you, which only encourages people to create armies of alt accounts to downvote whoever they suspect downvoted them. And so every discussion turns into angry, unproductive mudslinging.

There are 2 forums I know of (Warframe and Battle.net) forums with extremely toxic cultures that were partially cleaned up when the forum staff removed the downvote button.

I took one for the team (the "team" meaning civilized online discussion) here: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_request_new_features_to_curb_rampant_misuse_of_downvote_button

As you can see (and as I predicted), it got low-rated almost immediately. If you take the time to read through the posts, there are several people suggesting that the low-rated designation on my original post only proves me correct.

Just recently it appears that several people are sweeping through the front page of the forums and automatically low-rating various posts. One of my old discussions got necroed and was almost immediately low-rated on sight.

These forums need to be switched over to the old system where there are no upvote/downvote buttons, only a "report" button for painfully obvious violations. The internet itself has proven that "community moderation" doesn't work.

Another thread chock full of inauthentic downvotes: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/reality_check_most_games_are_trash

If I ever do a giveaway on these forums, I'm going to impose an upper reputation limit (as in only people with a reputation below a certain number are allowed to enter). The rules will look something like:
* Only posters with (some number) reputation or lower may enter. Each one of your unjustly low-rated posts is a battle scar and proof that you stood in honorable defense of civilized discussion.
* Everyone entering must provide a link to one of their forum posts (thread link and post number) where they were inauthentically low-rated. Bonus points for people who held the line in defense of freedom of speech - being low-ratedmerely for posting their honest view or engaging in civilized discussion. Low-rated posts that clearly deserved it (for example, trolling or starting flame wars) don't qualify for entry, obviously.
* Anyone known or suspected of using alt-accounts to engage in inauthentic behavior (downvote-mob alts and multiple entry into a giveaway) is automatically barred from entering.

I'll probably name it the "Defense of Free Speech" or "First Amendment" giveaway.

Inb4 the downvotes!
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DivisionByZero.620: The internet itself has proven that "community moderation" doesn't work.
Actually it can work great, but not as it is usually implemented.
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MaceyNeil: If people are pissed off with what your saying, but are not clearly linked to a valid rebuttal of your key points; chances are your doing something right.
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Leroux: Unless you're a troll trying to goad people into pointless heated debates and flamewars, then you did something wrong. ;P
(But at least you managed to get some reaction out of them.)
That is an interesting reply @Leroux. Could you define for us what debate topics are approved and which are not?
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Yeshu: Anybody find it strange how some people get universally down voted on the forum for seemingly no reason?
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AB2012: I did find it strange at first, but I don't think it's random at all given the people affected the most are the ones that either constantly talk about politics the most, start political threads or have political avatars / subheadings under their names. When some people have "Proud to be an SJW" whilst others have "Anti-SJW" as personal sub-headings to deliberately "goad" each other, that's half of what's turning the forum in on itself.

Edit: Other examples in this topic alone include one person's sub-heading about Trump and 2020 Elections and one other with an "InfoWars" avatar. Down-voting is often just a lot of otherwise neutral people getting very tired of hearing politics shoehorned into every single thread / avatar on a gaming forum.
So, in which category am I in exactly?

I don't know which world you live in because taking a look at the first page now and none of the threads is considered strictly political/offensive... could it be that those that gets easily offended are downright seeking that which exactly gets them off or they just perceive that everything is political/offensive?

Voicing an opinion isn't the same as voicing a political statement.

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GameRager: You seem to hit the trolls where it hurts. This post was well written and polite yet it's low rated.
Thanks, and ditto! Hehe, I'm actually quite used to being "harassed" by trolls that either gets too emotional or too brainless to even conceive their own world :P

I have a tendency to speak my mind, and often without any filter... and many people just gets too offended :D
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sanscript: So, in which category am I in exactly?
Neither. What I was describing is that for those who are often the target of downvotes, at time of writing at least 4 people in this thread have "political stuff" in their avatar pictures / subheadings which attracts that certain kind of attention that often gets complained about because regardless of what their threads / posts contain, when it's in the avatar itself it basically puts a "political statement" in the sidebar on every post they make, and reaction to that will "follow" that person even to non-political threads. "The more political a person is on a forum that isn't about politics, they more they get downvoted" may not be a 100% consistent observation, but it's hardly "at random" either here on GOG or other forums where I've witnessed the same thing in the past.
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