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Posted April 02, 2013
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MoP: Others are doing that now. And they struggle to reach 2000 sales.
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PaterAlf: Would have bought the bundle if they have more payment options (e.g. credit card, amazon payments). Unfortunately I use neither PayPal nor GoogleWallet and these are the only options they offer.
You don't need a PayPal account to pay with a credit card, PayPal only handles the transaction.
Posted April 02, 2013
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PaterAlf: Would have bought the bundle if they have more payment options (e.g. credit card, amazon payments). Unfortunately I use neither PayPal nor GoogleWallet and these are the only options they offer.
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HypersomniacLive: You don't need a PayPal account to pay with a credit card, PayPal only handles the transaction.
Thank you for the information. Made a last-second-purchase.
Posted April 02, 2013
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PaterAlf: What happened to the good old cross-platform and DRM-free?
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MoP: Others are doing that now. And they struggle to reach 2000 sales.
Not exactly the best example. BTA is too high .Games are pretty ordinary. Dinner date (Steam) ???????
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jamyskis: I seem to have the first RO in my Steam account, but I'll be fucked if I know how it got there. I certainly didn't consciously buy it, and I've only tested it quickly (4 minutes played according to Steam). Steam force-censors Red Orchestra 1 & 2 to a rather extreme extent if you're playing from a German IP.

Just another example of the clusterfuck that Steam is, and just another example of how the Humble Bundle really only cares about the moneyz. I stopped paying more than the average for bundles when the THQ Bundle farce came to be, and I've stopped respecting them ever since. My support for them stopped at the point they abandoned their principles, and from then tthey only became a source of cheap DRM-free games.
Only the blind couldnt have seen that happening. Money has gone to HiB's brain. Im not sure what devs quite make sure of them now.
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spoderman: $1 for:

Red Orchestra + Soundtrack
Red Orchestra 2 GOTY + Soundtrack

BTA for:

Killing Floor + Soundtrack + all DLC
As far as i can see Killing Floor is missing the Robot Special Charachter skin and Golden Weapons pack DLC
Only the community gun pack is actually worth it from what ive read (got mind from the GMG sale).
Post edited April 02, 2013 by nijuu
Posted April 02, 2013
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MoP: Others are doing that now. And they struggle to reach 2000 sales.
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nijuu: Not exactly the best example. BTA is too high .Games are pretty ordinary. Dinner date (Steam) ???????
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jamyskis: I seem to have the first RO in my Steam account, but I'll be fucked if I know how it got there. I certainly didn't consciously buy it, and I've only tested it quickly (4 minutes played according to Steam). Steam force-censors Red Orchestra 1 & 2 to a rather extreme extent if you're playing from a German IP.

Just another example of the clusterfuck that Steam is, and just another example of how the Humble Bundle really only cares about the moneyz. I stopped paying more than the average for bundles when the THQ Bundle farce came to be, and I've stopped respecting them ever since. My support for them stopped at the point they abandoned their principles, and from then tthey only became a source of cheap DRM-free games.
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nijuu: Only the blind couldnt have seen that happening. Money has gone to HiB's brain. Im not sure what devs quite make sure of them now.
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spoderman: $1 for:

Red Orchestra + Soundtrack
Red Orchestra 2 GOTY + Soundtrack

BTA for:

Killing Floor + Soundtrack + all DLC
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nijuu: As far as i can see Killing Floor is missing the Robot Special Charachter skin and Golden Weapons pack DLC
Only the community gun pack is actually worth it from what ive read (got mind from the GMG sale).
I posted that when the Humble page said "All DLC". They changed it to "11 DLCs". I'll edit my original post, but I was copying what the page said at the time.
Post edited April 02, 2013 by spoderman
Posted April 02, 2013
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MoP: Others are doing that now. And they struggle to reach 2000 sales.
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nijuu: Not exactly the best example. BTA is too high .Games are pretty ordinary. Dinner date (Steam) ???????
A black-and-white comparison isn't really possible anyway. Bundle-in-a-Box struggled primarily because it had no-name titles and nothing much for the Steam key hoarders. Indie Royale struggles despite having Steam keys. The Steam key indie bundles generally have much lower averages (usually around $7 or more for normal HIBs, the THQ managed didn't even manage $6.

The Humble Bundle's success is attributable to its hosting more prominent indie titles that have received more media coverage combined with its role in debuting Linux, Mac and DRM-free versions of many games. Indie Royale and Groupees, arguably its closest competitors, just don't have the titles to make that kind of dent, and haven't really debuted anything spectacular.
Posted April 02, 2013
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nijuu: Not exactly the best example. BTA is too high .Games are pretty ordinary. Dinner date (Steam) ???????
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jamyskis: A black-and-white comparison isn't really possible anyway. Bundle-in-a-Box struggled primarily because it had no-name titles and nothing much for the Steam key hoarders. Indie Royale struggles despite having Steam keys. The Steam key indie bundles generally have much lower averages (usually around $7 or more for normal HIBs, the THQ managed didn't even manage $6.

The Humble Bundle's success is attributable to its hosting more prominent indie titles that have received more media coverage combined with its role in debuting Linux, Mac and DRM-free versions of many games. Indie Royale and Groupees, arguably its closest competitors, just don't have the titles to make that kind of dent, and haven't really debuted anything spectacular.
I agree that it's not a fair comparison. I think that BiaB (besides coming late into the bundle-game) tries to put the spotlight on games less known and that's a good thing, imho. That alone makes it hard to compete with HIB which usually goes for the "big" indie names, something that has led to constant repeats (I've lost count how many times I got certain games from HIB). The fresh content of BiaB is one of the reasons I'm actually looking forward to a new BiaB - can't say Ithat for any of the others, not to mention that they pop-up every other day, so one has hardly any time to look forward anyway.

And I don't think that BTA is really that high - for this bundle alone you got 9 games. And they do always unlock all the extras before the bundle is over, something that, combined with the Indie Dev Grant, tells me that they're not doing this only for the money.

Just my two cents...
Posted April 02, 2013
I was first mildly interested in this weekly "Steam-only" bundle... until I realized both Red Orchestras and Killing Floor are basically online multiplayer games, right?

I think it will be a cold day in Hellsinki before I consciously pay for a multiplayer-only game, even as little as a few bucks. I guess I'll still stay with TFC and TF2 instead. Heck I haven't even bought any Unreal Tournament games ever, at least I don't think so.
Posted April 02, 2013
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jamyskis: A black-and-white comparison isn't really possible anyway. Bundle-in-a-Box struggled primarily because it had no-name titles and nothing much for the Steam key hoarders. Indie Royale struggles despite having Steam keys. The Steam key indie bundles generally have much lower averages (usually around $7 or more for normal HIBs, the THQ managed didn't even manage $6.

The Humble Bundle's success is attributable to its hosting more prominent indie titles that have received more media coverage combined with its role in debuting Linux, Mac and DRM-free versions of many games. Indie Royale and Groupees, arguably its closest competitors, just don't have the titles to make that kind of dent, and haven't really debuted anything spectacular.
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HypersomniacLive: I agree that it's not a fair comparison. I think that BiaB (besides coming late into the bundle-game) tries to put the spotlight on games less known and that's a good thing, imho. That alone makes it hard to compete with HIB which usually goes for the "big" indie names, something that has led to constant repeats (I've lost count how many times I got certain games from HIB). The fresh content of BiaB is one of the reasons I'm actually looking forward to a new BiaB - can't say Ithat for any of the others, not to mention that they pop-up every other day, so one has hardly any time to look forward anyway.

And I don't think that BTA is really that high - for this bundle alone you got 9 games. And they do always unlock all the extras before the bundle is over, something that, combined with the Indie Dev Grant, tells me that they're not doing this only for the money.

Just my two cents...
Exactly, which is why it's a damn shame an actual indie DRM-free bundle, first and foremost, that actually puts a spotlight and supports even more indies, can't even brake 'Indie'Gala numbers.
Posted April 02, 2013
FWIW anyone looking at RO and RO2 neither play anything like COD so don't expect them to be run and gun. KF is worth more than what its going for here.
Posted April 02, 2013
Do Killing Floor and the DLCs all come in one key, or separate?
Posted April 02, 2013
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jamyskis: I seem to have the first RO in my Steam account, but I'll be fucked if I know how it got there. I certainly didn't consciously buy it, and I've only tested it quickly (4 minutes played according to Steam). Steam force-censors Red Orchestra 1 & 2 to a rather extreme extent if you're playing from a German IP.

Just another example of the clusterfuck that Steam is, and just another example of how the Humble Bundle really only cares about the moneyz. I stopped paying more than the average for bundles when the THQ Bundle farce came to be, and I've stopped respecting them ever since. My support for them stopped at the point they abandoned their principles, and from then tthey only became a source of cheap DRM-free games.
I don't even look at Humble anymore. I just won't support an organization that sells out their principles that fast.
Posted April 02, 2013
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jamyskis: I seem to have the first RO in my Steam account, but I'll be fucked if I know how it got there. I certainly didn't consciously buy it, and I've only tested it quickly (4 minutes played according to Steam). Steam force-censors Red Orchestra 1 & 2 to a rather extreme extent if you're playing from a German IP.

Just another example of the clusterfuck that Steam is, and just another example of how the Humble Bundle really only cares about the moneyz. I stopped paying more than the average for bundles when the THQ Bundle farce came to be, and I've stopped respecting them ever since. My support for them stopped at the point they abandoned their principles, and from then tthey only became a source of cheap DRM-free games.
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Bloodygoodgames: I don't even look at Humble anymore. I just won't support an organization that sells out their principles that fast.
Everyone has their price. Looks like HiB's was flogging something like the THQ bundle.
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Malv0isin: Do Killing Floor and the DLCs all come in one key, or separate?
Think someone somewhere mentioned it was one key. Could be wrong. Have the game already so not going to buy it....
Post edited April 02, 2013 by nijuu
Posted April 02, 2013
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Malv0isin: Do Killing Floor and the DLCs all come in one key, or separate?
1 key
Posted April 03, 2013
Thanks guys. Already have the base game, so I think I'll pass on the bundle.

Only thing I am missing is the original Red Orchestra. Maybe I'll try to win it somewhere... :)
Posted April 03, 2013
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HypersomniacLive: I agree that it's not a fair comparison. I think that BiaB (besides coming late into the bundle-game) tries to put the spotlight on games less known and that's a good thing, imho. That alone makes it hard to compete with HIB which usually goes for the "big" indie names, something that has led to constant repeats (I've lost count how many times I got certain games from HIB). The fresh content of BiaB is one of the reasons I'm actually looking forward to a new BiaB - can't say Ithat for any of the others, not to mention that they pop-up every other day, so one has hardly any time to look forward anyway.

And I don't think that BTA is really that high - for this bundle alone you got 9 games. And they do always unlock all the extras before the bundle is over, something that, combined with the Indie Dev Grant, tells me that they're not doing this only for the money.

Just my two cents...
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MoP: Exactly, which is why it's a damn shame an actual indie DRM-free bundle, first and foremost, that actually puts a spotlight and supports even more indies, can't even brake 'Indie'Gala numbers.
It truly is a damn shame, one can only hope that with time, more people will appreciate what they're doing. Though, as jamyskis said, BiaB isn't attractive to the crowd that values Steam keys more than DRM-free standalone installers. That might change with Greenlight, though I guess that the entrance fee might be prohibitive (as an investment for an uncertain outcome) for some of the very small devs.

As for 'Indie' Gala, I always thought 'Steam' Gala is a more fitting name, but I guess they couldn't call themselves that.
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