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sadlyrematch: (....) you'll have to research and/or hope <insert game> works without Steam installed, which, of course, I can see as being annoying/stupid for the average person to do.
call it piracy/cracking and we are home. Ay! xD
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_Big_List_of_DRM-Free_Games_on_Steam
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deja65: You are right sir. Missed your second comment, my bad. For me a game qualifies as DRM-free if every single part of it can function if the mothership goes down (developer/publisher loses interest in keeping the mp servers running, no online only dlc, community servers support, mods etc.).I don't think the medium with which we play is DRM as long as it doesn't actively prevent us from doing just that. Cheers
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sadlyrematch: Exactly, though for me I just need singleplayer to work.

Further down into that rabbit hole: one day, both CDP AND Valve are going to be out of business. Their servers will be gone, and the only way you'll have access to your games is if you backed them up, so all of this meaningless bullshit about how needing to download Steam to download/backup your games is still "DRM" is annoying bullshit. The only main difference is that with Steam you'll have to research and/or hope <insert game> works without Steam installed, which of course I can see as being annoying/stupid for the average person to do.
Very true. It depends on how heavy the Steam integration is. Some games merely use Steam as a delivery method with the possibility of deleting Steam and copying the contents on a flash drive and playing it anywhere. And then there are games with Steam multiplayer, multiple layers of copy protections (active and passive) which leave a lot of bloat. When Valve goes belly up, those files will definitely try to phone home with each start. That can get really annoying. GOG games are probably the complete opposite and allow for easy access if the install package is still available. Almost like an old, crusty CD from 15 years ago that will shatter in the cd drive at any moment ;) Cheers
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Atlo: This will be completely offtopic, but I don't want to resurrect an old thread.

Did you actually find an artist for that Tron game?
And if so - is there perhaps some vague time window when the first Alpha will be available? (I'd suggest itch.io for this.)

Not asking in private because Tron games are severely lacking and I'd wager other people too would want to know how's the development and how your story with finding an artist went.
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XeonicDevil: actually found the artist in myself :)
sometimes old school code and pixel art love is the best way to draw what you want.
Well... that was certainly unexpected. O_o
Good for you then I guess.

Looking forward to the first playable prototype. Best of luck to you!
As usual the regular pro-DRM zealots who want all their personal use of DRM to be called "DRM-free anyway" are here, to the surprise of literally no one.

This, folks, is why GOG experimented multiple times with increasing the amount and diversity of DRM they allow on their store. They know a vocal group of their customers is always going to defend DRM and try to make "DRM-free" a meaningless label that can be applied to anything.
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vv221: As usual the regular pro-DRM zealots who want all their personal use of DRM to be called "DRM-free anyway" are here, to the surprise of literally no one.

This, folks, is why GOG experimented multiple times with increasing the amount and diversity of DRM they allow on their store. They know a vocal group of their customers is always going to defend DRM and try to make "DRM-free" a meaningless label that can be applied to anything.
It's not our fault your own web page contradicts itself and your own definition directly means GOG is DRM, especially when they go out of business.

Thanks for explaining though! I'll be sure to tell everyone how GOG is actually DRM thanks to your helpful website's arbitrary definition!


Plus, for a lot of games on GOG it's LITERALLY the EXACT same build as the Steam version. LMAOOOOOOOO
Post edited 4 days ago by sadlyrematch
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vv221: (...)
Do you have the same feeling that the person is talking to himself from two profiles, thinking he is invincible that way? I do xD some suggested they are paid.
> someone says the truth, that you don't like
> "they're a paid shill!!11!"

You guys sound like crypto bro losers coping about their random coin LOL
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sadlyrematch: (....)
just don't shutter after 15 years ; ) 📷
Post edited 4 days ago by solseb
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solseb: Do you have the same feeling that the person is talking to himself from two profiles (…)
No, I think these are both legit accounts.

And at least one is in my opinion posting in good faith, despite being clueless, mostly a victim of the pro-DRM marketing who believes what they are writing here.
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XeonicDevil: long story short, steam is ran by a bunch of crazy nut jobs
Gog and numbers of other stores and game makers are being much different how?
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maestroruffy: I think the best is to try to enjoy every opportunity. I'd rather GOG, I prefer to buy games here but steam has also its advantages. If you are fed up with Steam, stop using for a while, and then with a cool head, make a decision.
This stance is being good stance.
Post edited 4 days ago by FarkyTheDog
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vv221: (....)
That is a generous opinion for trolling : ) I believe you have a good faith, and I am fixing myself with it now.

1. Deleting my Steam account now thanks to three people
2. This thread is heading into the abyss 🕳
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You can post your stupid little website to try and gaslight me all you want, it's not going to change the facts I've stated in this thread, and certainly cannot alter my own past experiences playing DRM-free games from Steam.

Especially, once again, when your own website contradicts itself, and GOG is DRM by your own definition.
Post edited 4 days ago by sadlyrematch
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sadlyrematch: You can post your stupid little website to try and gaslight me all you want, it's not going to change the facts I've stated in this thread, and certainly cannot alter my own past experiences playing DRM-free games from Steam.
Peoples like that need to stop obsessing over what is being DRM or not and get to playing some games.
There is no limit to nonsense people won't make themselves believe when it's convenient for them. If someone really wants to both be a vegetarian and eat a burger you bet they'll say burgers are made of plants because cows eat grass and fight anyone who disagrees by mockingly saying "so I guess you think grass is made of meat? Everything is meat in that case! By your definition air is meat too".

Of course with some "LMAOOOO" and "LOLOLOL" thrown in to really up the ante.
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sadlyrematch: (....)
He is way smarter and calmer than your replies.
For your post lemme quote you:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/does_anyone_here_use_encrypted_email_services/post20
"Just because no one cares about you doesn't mean that's the case for everyone, and your suggestions are often inadequate depending on the circumstance."

I am done here ⚪ <- big dot