myconv: Not in slavers eyes. It was a threat to their way of life. If slavery had existed to this day and age slavers might be arguing we can't get ride of slavery till we have robots that can completely replace them became available.
Similarly 'not capitalism' exists in pockets and different forms the world over, we have options for at least starting to get away from the worst of capitalism. Like denying people to 'own' land they don't live or work on and investing in public housing for more efficient taking care of people. This is not complicated or 'new'.
If in that day and age, they were given large enough benefits, transitioning from slavery would have been without issue because their profits stood higher than their way of life. We can see it now that corporations don't care what they do as long as it makes them money.
The pockets of not-capitalism in the world are being steam-rolled by the global giants, which are capitalist powerhouses. Money doesn't buy everything, but it buys enough to take what it can't buy by force.
myconv: It was a risk to the people in power benefiting from it all, just like capitalism. Yes they will fight against capitalisms reduction and removal. But it is a necessity.
Necessary as it may be, violence is just a quick-fix for those who can't outwit their opponents. You can see it in the so-called 'war against drugs' which is pretty much a sham, as soon as one cartel is taken down, the void is immediately filled up by another, more aggressive one. Without a replacement of your own already prepared and set in place as soon as the former is removed, you will waste a lot to gain nothing.
myconv: Also about fear that slavery will be eventually abolished in existing states. And when that came to be true after the civil war, waves of intense violence happen as people attempted to force things back because they viewed removing slavery as a attack on a way of life and society. And that violence worked, causing great backslides into oppression and sudo-slavery.
If the people pushing against slavery listened to you, then slavery in the US would have never ended. The violence of abolitionists and those who fought against them, of the civil war, of white retribution and force after, of the civil rights movement much latter to restore 'racial' sanity, all that risked and got violence. Many even argued that these protests and civil disobedience etc. where too early and risked violence because people couldn't handle it. But I argue it was worth it. That some extra lives were lost then sure, but in the end more lives were saved and improved removing slavery despite the violence.
Similarly we risk dealing with violence if we remove the worst parts of capitalism and implement socialistic reforms that improve peoples lives. But it is a risk well worth it compared to having to keep on dealing with capitalisms violence and misery. Again though if you want to avoid violence, we need to plant the seeds of ideas and thoughts that talk about alternatives to capitalism/feudalism. If enough people get infected with good ideas then it is much easier to implement such things without violence.
The pushback worked because of war exhaustion. They lost too many lives and couldn't afford to keep losing more, also there was the risk of mass desertion if they kept pushing. Because most normal people don't like war and don't like violence.
Any ideological confrontation is a war of attrition. And without the logistics to support that war, a movement will fail without a doubt. Being right or wrong and whether your ideas have worth or not doesn't matter, what matters is your ability to garner support and maintain it long enough to overwhelm your opponents. So like it or not, having the resources or the wealth to buy those resources is what will drive those seeking power to pursue, no matter the environment.
You think that infecting people with good ideas is enough, but it's not. Look at the climate change ordeal. Many people protest for it, do the governments listen? No. They ignore and they delay until the companies that have the capital to implement such changes are actually ready to transition. Because without the money and the resources needed, those protests are worth nothing.
Look at the recycling fiasco. Gather your trash after you, split up the trash according to the materials, save energy, buy less food, wash with less water, walk instead of using your car, eat less meat etc and the list keeps growing. So many growing demands for a healthier planet, only to be told none of them matter in the end because the companies that are supposed to recycle can't afford to retrofit for recycling, the factories that are supposed to lower emissions can't afford to maintain the demanded production and retrofit for the requested lower emissions. And if they are forced to do so anyway, what will they do instead? Declare bankruptcy and leave. Now what is their replacement and where is the money to implement it?
myconv: Yes, the only thing stopping it is the wealthy elites who fight tooth and nail to make things worse instead of better and the lower level people brainwashed by elite self serving BS.
You forget the corrupt politicians who steal from the budget and taxes, the corrupt police force who enforce their corrupt laws, the corrupt and incompetent bureaucrats who make everything more difficult for no reason, the corrupt justice system, the corrupt medical system, the corrupt educational system, the corrupt scientific system etc.
Looks like everything is corrupt. What now? Do we round them all up and shoot them in order to better our lives?
You want change and you want revolution and that is a good thing, because we shouldn't give up on bettering ourselves and each other. But most people don't want that. They don't want to struggle, nor to fight tooth and nail. They want stability, no matter what that means. So if you want people to fight, you give them a solution to fight for and paint green arrows on how to reach it. Because they will fight for something concrete and then settle for it.