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PalioDeMonte: He wants to say that "as soon as possible" still includes the option 'never'. He's a smartass... ;)
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Pheace: That's my point yes, though I don't think it's that smartass when the point of the thread is that the developers stated there's no plans of getting the DLC here.
Didn't mean to offend you, sorry. Just considered it funny to look for loopholes in Judas' statement - reminded me of TV-show lawyers ("I didn't actually say my client killed him. I just spoke hypothetically...") ;)
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Pheace: That's my point yes, though I don't think it's that smartass when the point of the thread is that the developers stated there's no plans of getting the DLC here.
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PalioDeMonte: Didn't mean to offend you, sorry. Just considered it funny to look for loopholes in Judas' statement - reminded me of TV-show lawyers ("I didn't actually say my client killed him. I just spoke hypothetically...") ;)
No offense taken. It's just that Judas tends to have a mix of official and non official responses in his repertoire and it's not always clear which he's using at the time. This could just have been a general statement of 'GOG does it's best to get DLC here and as soon as possible'. Of course it does, but that doesn't confirm or deny anything, all it does is give a reply that makes it seem like the issue is resolved when in fact the situation could still be the developers have no intention of releasing the DLC here (but GOG will do their best release it ASAP, which is a statement which I assume is *always* the case, the point/question is whether it is confirmed they're going to or not)
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JudasIscariot: The DLC will be here but there's no definite date as to when it will arrive.
Is there a best way for customers to proceed when a GOG game lags behind an alternate version in terms of updates or expansions?

On the face of it, this thread seems successful (even if a bit negative in parts).
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JudasIscariot: I said "as soon as possible" because we don't know WHEN we'll have the DLC. I fail to see where the maningless PR speak actually is in my statement.

The DLC will be here but there's no definite date as to when it will arrive.
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Pheace: Until your last sentence there was no statement from you that the DLC will actually come here, that's what I'm trying to make clear to you. That final sentence would have been the better way of stating it.
The statement was clear: the developer/publisher have now promised bring the DLCs to GOG, but the exact schedule is still not confirmed. That is definitely different from the publisher saying they have no plans whatsoever to bring them to GOG. You must be the only person who read "as soon as possible" as "possibly never".

Why would you be interested in this news anyway? I know you are vigorously against the idea of GOG selling indie games so I am sure you haven't bought and would never buy The Escapists from GOG either way. If anything, you are probably just disappointed the GOG version turned out to get the same DLCs.
Post edited September 16, 2015 by timppu
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timppu: I know you are vigorously against the idea of GOG selling indie games so I am sure you haven't bought and would never buy The Escapists from GOG.
I don't know what you know but I'm pretty sure I've never made that statement. What you may be confused with is that I *have* stated that the only reason I use GOG is for classics that I can't get elsewhere. That does *not* automatically mean I am *against the idea of GOG selling Indie games*. In fact, I've stated more than once that expanding their library beyond classics was inevitable and the best path forward for GOG as a business.

Heck I've even lamented them for denying certain games from coming here like Thomas was Alone and the Winter Wolves games.
Post edited September 16, 2015 by Pheace
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vicklemos: When gog sez asap it means soon! :D
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stg83: FTFY. ;)
When I mean soon I mean we'll see it pretty quick. GOG's at hard work, as usual. You can tell that :)
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JudasIscariot: The DLC will be here but there's no definite date as to when it will arrive.
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grimwerk: Is there a best way for customers to proceed when a GOG game lags behind an alternate version in terms of updates or expansions?

On the face of it, this thread seems successful (even if a bit negative in parts).
This probably is the only thing the community can do - complain about it. The total opacity when it comes to future games is probably one of the reasons people make threads like this, since nobody has the slightest idea what is coming majority of the time.

Constructive complaining is the best avenue. We, the people, are powerless to do more than that.
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JudasIscariot: The DLC will be here but there's no definite date as to when it will arrive.
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grimwerk: Is there a best way for customers to proceed when a GOG game lags behind an alternate version in terms of updates or expansions?

On the face of it, this thread seems successful (even if a bit negative in parts).
The only way I can think of would be to send the developer or publisher a courteous email asking about these kind of things :)
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grimwerk: Is there a best way for customers to proceed when a GOG game lags behind an alternate version in terms of updates or expansions?

On the face of it, this thread seems successful (even if a bit negative in parts).
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JudasIscariot: The only way I can think of would be to send the developer or publisher a courteous email asking about these kind of things :)
I tried with Slender the Arrival, it's more than a year behind in patches and never got a response.
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timppu: The statement was clear: the developer/publisher have now promised bring the DLCs to GOG, but the exact schedule is still not confirmed. That is definitely different from the publisher saying they have no plans whatsoever to bring them to GOG. You must be the only person who read "as soon as possible" as "possibly never".
He wasn't the only one and he is right, as soon as possible could mean it might not be possible.
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Marioface5: In my opinion, choosing to sell a game here (or on Humble, or anywhere else) should be seen as a commitment and not taken lightly. If a developer or publisher doesn't know for sure that they can and/or will keep the GOG version of a game up to date, then they should hold off on releasing it here.
So, you mean if they have any doubt about the viability of their game here, they shouldn't bother with us and go steam exclusive, that's it? How would that not be "second class customers" if they don't even bother to sell the game here?

Personally, I prefer to see them take theyr chance and try to release a game, and then sometime changing their mind for the DLC, than to see every small-to-medium release go Steam only because GOG is too "dangerous"
Post edited September 16, 2015 by Kardwill
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Marioface5: In my opinion, choosing to sell a game here (or on Humble, or anywhere else) should be seen as a commitment and not taken lightly. If a developer or publisher doesn't know for sure that they can and/or will keep the GOG version of a game up to date, then they should hold off on releasing it here.
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Kardwill: So, you mean if they have any doubt about the viability of their game here, they shouldn't bother with us and go steam exclusive, that's it? How would that not be "second class customers" if they don't even bother to sell the game here?

Personally, I prefer to see them take theyr chance and try to release a game, and then sometime changing their mind for the DLC, than to see every small release go Stem only because GOG is too "dangerous"
This x 100000
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JudasIscariot: Hi all, The various DLC for The Escapists will be here for the GOG version as soon as possible. That is all.
Speaking in general and for any game, can't Gog force a bit the release of such addons as soon as other stores?
Such delays harm your competitiveness.
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JudasIscariot: Hi all, The various DLC for The Escapists will be here for the GOG version as soon as possible. That is all.
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phaolo: Speaking in general and for any game, can't Gog force a bit the release of such addons as soon as other stores?
Such delays harm your competitiveness.
That question is a bit way too beyond me so I can't really answer it myself. Sorry :/
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JudasIscariot: Hi all,

The various DLC for The Escapists will be here for the GOG version as soon as possible. That is all.
Fine, I'll put it back on my wishlist... for now :p