Stonebro beat me to it. No, I'm not criticizing him for having a different opinion. I'm criticizing him for being incredibly annoying about it, and arguing with everyone about every topic in every thread--and if he's not arguing he's being overly dramatic and self-centered.

And yes, I have in fact played the game. At least, I think I have. I'm still trying to find a game within this sloppy mess of horrible ideas. No matter how much I play, I'm wondering when the damn thing will begin. Where's the non-stop action? I didn't even get to blow a guy up with a RPG before the developers decided to shrink me to the size of a gerbil and make me jump ramps in some of the worst level design I've seen in a good long while.

DNF served much better as a vaporware joke than an actual game. They should have built onto the foundation that earned so many fans and created the legacy of Duke. Instead, they changed the gameplay into modern day mediocre garbage, complete with the standard regenerating health and two-weapon carrying system of post-Halo shooters. The load times are also awful, and the humor just wreaks of Randy Pitchford in every detail. I can actually hear him laughing about the poop you can pick up and throw.

2/10 seems about right. I don't often agree with Destructoid but they've hit the nail on the head with this one.

Duke Nukem's reputation is 'forever' tarnished now.

I wish Sterling would be this objective with all the games he reviewed. The game is consolized crap from it's weapon limitations to its click this button repeatedly bosses to its on-rails level design to its regening health, etc. etc. Never mind the Day One DLC. If people still don't believe the 'consolization' thing just compare Duke 3D to Duke Forever and tell me which is the better PC game.

I meant it was rushed out by GBX in that they could've stuck to the current tech and cleaned it up better but they didn't because they were greedy and fans were in too much of a hurry to wait.

I agree that hopefully the next game will be good though.

The flaws are in the design decisions not the polish.

It seems to be a bit of both actually.

Say you don't like the game or it's good, not nothing special in your eyes. For you, is just owning Duke Nukem Forever good enough for you? Being part of Duke's return from vaporware hell? I think it is for some. Heck at times this weekend I even pondered that.

still nothing on how good the multiplayer is? i thought it would become popular like how they used to play it on Kali or TEN

If the game has issues I will criticize them after playing, but I am just happy to have it in my hands.......now to find and "obtain" all the old builds. :D

Supports max 8 players. That's unacceptable.

This is the game after Gearbox polished it up. Given the absolutely ridiculous history, the obscene amount of legacy code that must be lurking within this thing, and the ludicrous amount of money that was already poured into it, the only way to make something better than this without a complete restart would have cost so much money and taken so much time that it wouldn't have made any business sense whatsoever.

Saying Gearbox didn't polish the game up is unfair. They did. The game was most likely in far worse shape than this when they got it. This is Exhibit A for the phrase "you can't polish a turd."

*cough* you are joking right? 8 players was the standard for the PS2 and Xbox, hell the Dreamcast could handle 4! 8 players? EIGHT? Fuck me.

I wish I was.

Many duke4 posters have even said they could've done more. 1/3 the textures aren't even polished, and the rest are.