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gameon: But if its a friend in your house via Lan, then surely thats ok. As it does say in the GOG terms and conditions that a game may be installed on any number of pcs in your own household...
Sorry but your thinking of it wrong. You can have it installed on every computer you own BUT you only have the right to play it on one of those at a time. Why on earth would it be ok to use your 1 copy on 2 computers at the same time?
Post edited May 26, 2012 by wodmarach
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gameon: I'm only talking about short Lan only games. Not full game single player. Also the games have been bought legitimately, so its not exactly piracy.

I'm sorry for any offense caused, and i will stick to using games myself at all times.
No it's exactly piracy, it's using a copy you don't have the right to use. The games aren't freeware they are paid for and you want to use an unlicensed copy that is piracy...

Just because it's DRM free doesn't mean it's license free you still have responsibilities not to distribute it etc.
Post edited May 26, 2012 by wodmarach
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vrmlbasic: It says that it is a-ok to play 2 separate instances of a single player game on 2 separate computers,
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SirPrimalform: Who said that was ok? o.0

Pretty sure GOG says please don't do this. They're ok with you installing it on multiple computers in your house, but I'm pretty sure they're not cool with both those copies being played by different people at the same time.
Yeah I don't remember ever thinking buying a DRM free game was supposed to give me such an automatic right. I'm buying a game that allows me ease of install, and is somewhat future proofed. That doesn't mean I get to call all of my buddies over and have a party off a single copy. Installing a copy on multiple systems and running a copy on multiple systems feels like very different things.

Its great if a game is made in such a way as not to care, but I don't really expect that one. Maybe it just because I don't personally like playing on-line.


I think it is fair to feel that it is some form of end user control, but I'm not sure I'm willing to extend to it DRM status given that on-line gaming has a certain amount of inherit future-play risk to it.
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gameon: You're getting the wrong idea though. I am not giving them to other people it was in house on another pc i own. If i buy a game and own two pc's then i have the right to use them.
And you CAN use them but only you not a friend who is round, and only on 1 computer at a time.
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wodmarach: No it's exactly piracy, it's using a copy you don't have the right to use. The games aren't freeware they are paid for and you want to use an unlicensed copy that is piracy...

Just because it's DRM free doesn't mean it's license free you still have responsibilities not to distribute it etc.
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gameon: You're getting the wrong idea though. I am not giving them to other people it was in house on another pc i own. If i buy a game and own two pc's then i have the right to use them.

Although now you guys have made it clear that its only ok for personal use. Please dont make me out to be unscrupulous!
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gooberking: Yeah I don't remember ever thinking buying a DRM free game was supposed to give me such an automatic right. I'm buying a game that allows me ease of install, and is somewhat future proofed. That doesn't mean I get to call all of my buddies over and have a party off a single copy. Installing a copy on multiple systems and running a copy on multiple systems feels like very different things.
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gameon: I was only saying one other person. i wouldn't have a group of people playing.
I wasn't singling you out. Its understandable how one might be tempted by the possibility of such a situation. If you are buying games and not handing them out like Halloween candy I'm sure you can still be considered a good paying customer.
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gooberking: I think it is fair to feel that it is some form of end user control, but I'm not sure I'm willing to extend to it DRM status given that on-line gaming has a certain amount of inherit future-play risk to it.
Why not? That's exactly what it is. Digital Rights Management. They don't want you to play that single license online with more than 1 person/copy at a time, hence the key restricts you from doing that. They managed what you can do with it.

It's quite clearly DRM. Just because it doesn't apply to the entire game doesn't negate that fact.

I realize it's a grey area. However, where No-DRM generally allows you to make that decision on your own, by only allowing you one key for your product GOG (or the original developer) basically made that decision/restriction for you.
Post edited May 26, 2012 by Pheace
Painkiller requires one for MP, I know that much.
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TheEnigmaticT: Okay, it's probably possible to play more than one computer at once, but it's hardly practical.
Turn-based games. Extremely practical to play more than one at the same time :)
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TheEnigmaticT: Okay, it's probably possible to play more than one computer at once, but it's hardly practical.
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xyem: Turn-based games. Extremely practical to play more than one at the same time :)
I'm apparently not smart enough, then, since I would undoubtedly fark up trying to plan strategy in a MOO and HOMM game simultaneously. ;)
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xyem: Turn-based games. Extremely practical to play more than one at the same time :)
In fact, it's very difficult to play more than one at the same time :-)

EDIT: No wait, reading fail. My interpretation: In a multiplayer turn-based game, only one person is actually "playing" at once, the others are just waiting their turn.
Post edited May 26, 2012 by Miaghstir
But I've just cloned myself yesterday since I'm short of friends ...
Am I actually suppose to BUY another game for playing with my clone even if I'm technically playing against myself since HE IS ME :( ?


That just sucks... pffff. Why did I even bother cloning myself then ?
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TheEnigmaticT: Okay, it's probably possible to play more than one computer at once, but it's hardly practical.
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xyem: Turn-based games. Extremely practical to play more than one at the same time :)
Thats what PBEM or hotseat modes are for :P
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gooberking: I think it is fair to feel that it is some form of end user control, but I'm not sure I'm willing to extend to it DRM status given that on-line gaming has a certain amount of inherit future-play risk to it.
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Pheace: Why not? That's exactly what it is. Digital Rights Management. They don't want you to play that single license online with more than 1 person/copy at a time, hence the key restricts you from doing that. They managed what you can do with it.

It's quite clearly DRM. Just because it doesn't apply to the entire game doesn't negate that fact.

I realize it's a grey area. However, where No-DRM generally allows you to make that decision on your own, by only allowing you one key for your product GOG (or the original developer) basically made that decision/restriction for you.
Normally I think I would be inclined to make that mental leap, but for now I'm sticking with not sure, because I'm not sure if it is or if its just benign enough that I'm not bothered so much about it. Perhaps because its one of those "it hasn't effected me personally," things since the only game I have ever played on-line was UT2004 and I'm quite happy without that ability.

Depending on the scope of what is happening I could be persuaded to rethink my stance. Like when talking about clouding significant content or devs deliberately omitting any off-line modes of play simply to leverage the automatic control inherent to on-line gaming. But then I have to be careful because some games are only possible in a community setting and they should have the right to exist. But then why make games dependent on dev's own servers when players used to be able to create them on their own?
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TheEnigmaticT: I'm apparently not smart enough, then, since I would undoubtedly fark up trying to plan strategy in a MOO and HOMM game simultaneously. ;)
"Playing" is not equal to "playing well" :)
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gooberking: Normally I think I would be inclined to make that mental leap, but for now I'm sticking with not sure, because I'm not sure if it is or if its just benign enough that I'm not bothered so much about it. Perhaps because its one of those "it hasn't effected me personally," things since the only game I have ever played on-line was UT2004 and I'm quite happy without that ability.
I understand that. I feel the same way about Steam. CD-keys especially can be considered especially benign.