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SimonG: Sooo, we either bitch about that not only old games are released or we bitch about not enough indies are getting released. So what now?!

Honestly, I never wanted GOG to become another DD for medicore indie games. Yes, unepic might be great, but so gar GOG has only chossen high quality indie game. If I want experiments, I will go to Desura. Ones the game has proven itself, they can reaplly. I want a GOG seal of quality.

And, wow, staggering 77 votes on the wishlist...
This is my position, I want gog to be a place I can come to and browse the games and have an open mind because each game has passed a test of time. That I know the game I am about to purchase is sold as a finalised form (why the lack of Exp packs on some games worry me).
I am happy to see gog selling newer games, but to me, newer is 3 or so years old. Not day one releases or episodic content style of games that havn't been finished.
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Licurg: :( Unepic is an awesome game, can't understand why they turned them down. One of the best Indie RPGs ever made.
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oldschool: I never heard of this game until i saw this thread. It looks pretty fun, I too do not understand while they rejected it. I hope they reconsider.
UNepic is sort of a mix between Diablo and The Spirit Engine, and the story is basically the one from Nox. What sets this game apart is it's humour, which is excellent, possibly the best i've ever seen in an Indie game. Plus it's full of references to other games.
In UnEpic you can upload your stats via one npc, so you obviously need a connection if you want to do it. That particular feature would be an issue with gog' DRM free policy.

The game is unbalanced, but it's still in Beta.
I can actually see why, I do not think Unepic fits on gog. It is a very good game, but I feel it belong more on services like GamersGate and Desura. While gog now starts selling some new indies, I think the ones on here now more fits with the previous games somewhat. Gog need to have a profile making it stick out from the other providers, and they seem to be doing well so far. Accepting all kind of indies might make it to much like the others.

(The adventure game is arguably not fitting either, but then again it was a free bonus game so thats OK...)
The idea that GOG is focusing on only the great indie games is kind of hilarious. Whispered World is fairly mediocre, largely known and praised only for its' visual, and it also has a really weird price point. If GOG is only selling the all stars, what the hell is the point? I can get these games DRM free and much cheaper elsewhere, so why have they even bothered to move into the market?

The idea that GOG also only sells that games that have passed the test of time is also ludicrous. GOG sells some AWFUL games. No site that sells Gothic Forsaken Gods can take that defense.

As far as votes, that's also a pretty awful way to judge things. Look at the indie developers we have, and look up their other games, some of which are just as good, or even better. Multiwinia has a whopping 2 votes. Samorost 2 has 7. Anomaly Warzone Earth had 2 before it was released. It's a terrible gauge because not that many people use it, especially for indie games. Even a giant like Minecraft has just over 100 votes.
Post edited May 13, 2012 by Sinizine
Woohoo im # 90 to vote it....

This game looks very fun and a "breath of fresh air" so to speak in the genre, id like to see this here in some form.
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Sinizine: As far as votes, that's also a pretty awful way to judge things. Look at the indie developers we have, and look up their other games, some of which are just as good, or even better. Multiwinia has a whopping 2 votes. Samorost 2 has 7. Anomaly Warzone Earth had 2 before it was released. It's a terrible gauge because not that many people use it, especially for indie games. Even a giant like Minecraft has just over 100 votes.
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gameon: Well, maybe people aren't voting for those indie games because they've been released elsewhere/they already own them, rather than having a lack of interest in those games/those games not being good enough.
They aren't voting for indie games AT ALL is my point. You will be hard pressed to find a single indie game much higher than 200 votes ( I found Trine 2 as the highest so far), so bringing up the wishlist at all when it is so clearly a failure in regards to what we're discussing is pointless.
Post edited May 13, 2012 by Sinizine
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Cambrey: In UnEpic you can upload your stats via one npc, so you obviously need a connection if you want to do it. That particular feature would be an issue with gog' DRM free policy.
No it wouldn't...

Optional stat upload couldn't be considered DRM in any way since it doesn't actually affect your ability to play the game. That's like saying multiplayer is DRM because you need a network connection to play it.
Multiplayer where only the developer/publisher can run a server could sort of be called a form of DRM, but if it is, then it's one that GOG doesn't have a problem with (they sell games like that already).
Post edited May 13, 2012 by SirPrimalform
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Cambrey: In UnEpic you can upload your stats via one npc, so you obviously need a connection if you want to do it. That particular feature would be an issue with gog' DRM free policy.
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SirPrimalform: No it wouldn't...

Optional stat upload couldn't be considered DRM in any way since it doesn't actually affect your ability to play the game. That's like saying multiplayer is DRM because you need a network connection to play it.
Multiplayer where only the developer/publisher could sort of be called a form of DRM, but if it is it's one that GOG doesn't have a problem with (they sell games like that already).
Yeah I don't see why that would be an issue. As long as loss of connection doesn't mean the game is disabled or that a vital function is lost, I wouldn't have any issue with it, and I'm fairly strict on my interpretation of what constitutes DRM.
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gameon: Well, maybe people aren't voting for those indie games because they've been released elsewhere/they already own them, rather than having a lack of interest in those games/those games not being good enough.
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Sinizine: They aren't voting for indie games AT ALL is my point. You will be hard pressed to find a single indie game much higher than 200 votes ( I found Trine 2 as the highest so far), so bringing up the wishlist at all when it is so clearly a failure in regards to what we're discussing is pointless.
GOG test the indie market.... they can't put every fricking indie game out there for sale here. A lot of people still forget that GOG is still releasing mainly older games (3+ years) .And so far they have to release couple of more All-Star Indies like Bastion,Limbo,Super Meat Boy...and etc...

So not releasing Unepic for now it is not a big deal... If the demand for the game gets higher...why not...

Anybody considered > http://www.unepicgame.com/en/items.html
This to be the issue with releasing the game?
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spinefarm: Anybody considered > http://www.unepicgame.com/en/items.html
This to be the issue with releasing the game?
I don't quite follow... It's basically free DLC (you don't buy credits with real money, you earn them by playing the game).
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Sinizine: They aren't voting for indie games AT ALL is my point. You will be hard pressed to find a single indie game much higher than 200 votes ( I found Trine 2 as the highest so far), so bringing up the wishlist at all when it is so clearly a failure in regards to what we're discussing is pointless.
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spinefarm: GOG test the indie market.... they can't put every fricking indie game out there for sale here. A lot of people still forget that GOG is still releasing mainly older games (3+ years) .And so far they have to release couple of more All-Star Indies like Bastion,Limbo,Super Meat Boy...and etc...

So not releasing Unepic for now it is not a big deal... If the demand for the game gets higher...why not...

Anybody considered > http://www.unepicgame.com/en/items.html
This to be the issue with releasing the game?
How many times do I have to say this? You are using a TERRIBLE list to gauge interest. The all stars you mentioned? 2 of them have just barely scraped by 100 votes. Clearly that means there's no demand for them and they shouldn't bother to add them, right? There isn't a single indie game in the ENTIRE WISHLIST that has reached 300 votes. So, again, for the third time, using the wishlist as a way to measure interest in a indie title right now is flat out stupid, because very few people are using the wishlist to vote for indie games.

People aren't forgetting that GOG is releasing old games still, it's just not really relevant to the discussion. The thread is about their policies as a provider of indie games.
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spinefarm: Anybody considered > http://www.unepicgame.com/en/items.html
This to be the issue with releasing the game?
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SirPrimalform: I don't quite follow... It's basically free DLC (you don't buy credits with real money, you earn them by playing the game).
If you can just unlock items via the game then no biggie, but if we are talking about "clouded" content that isn't guaranteed to be available after purchase, then we do have some sort of issue. Given that its an indi title, the chances that the content won't be available long term is extremely high.
I totally wanted this game but really, the price is just... too high. :|
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SirPrimalform: I don't quite follow... It's basically free DLC (you don't buy credits with real money, you earn them by playing the game).
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gooberking: If you can just unlock items via the game then no biggie, but if we are talking about "clouded" content that isn't guaranteed to be available after purchase, then we do have some sort of issue. Given that its an indi title, the chances that the content won't be available long term is extremely high.
... it's not the unlockable content content, it's the TRADEMARKED AND COPYRIGHTED item names.