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Posted November 14, 2011
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wormholewizards: I have question regarding Master of Orion 3 and Empire Earth III and even Megarace 3. Do you honestly think the games are really bad if we not treat them as sequel, instead treat 'em as whole different games?
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Hawk52: Even ignoring it as a sequel, MoO 3 is pretty damn bad from what I remember. I bought it not long after release, so I followed the modding scene for awhile. Fundamental systems in the game are broken/do not work right and even with the work of modders it was almost impossible to fix it. It also has an overall feeling of not being fun. It's just a tedious mess of a game.

But I'm sure there's someone out there that loves it and can defend it.
This. You can't come with half done unpolished garbage on the heels of a gem like MoO2. The only exception I've ever made is SC3, but ONLY because you really can't view it as a true sequel and I think Legend probably shouldn't have billed it as such. In MoO's case, however, they hyped the shit out of it, then laid a big steaming pile. It was pretty inexcusable.

I've always felt that any developer that releases a product knowing that it'll require extensive patching and in a lot of cases, extensive modding, to get any enjoyment out of, doesn't deserve my dollars. I do make exceptions if the game is GOOD.
Posted November 14, 2011
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wormholewizards: I have question regarding Master of Orion 3 and Empire Earth III and even Megarace 3. Do you honestly think the games are really bad if we not treat them as sequel, instead treat 'em as whole different games?
I never played Megarace 1 or 2, picked up 3 for the bargain bin price of $2 in a store. (The price should of been the first indication something was wrong..)

I'm not a racing fan, but I do like futuristic racer type games (F-Zero and Wipeout for example.)

Its uh.. pretty bad. Case in point; I played it for about 40 minutes. Once. Then forever cast it aside.
Posted November 14, 2011
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Profanity: The real reason for this thread is me wanting to hear about Syberia. I keep hearing great things about it, that it's starting to look fishy. I'd love to hear your opinions about it.
I loved Syberia 1, though mainly for the atmosphere / story. The puzzles were mostly very easy, but I got really frustrated in one part because I missed a ladder/staircase in a very dark corner of a screen, which lead me to missing an item I needed for a puzzle, which lead to hours of frustration.

Syberia 2 is not nearly as good as Syberia 1, but you'll probably want to play it to finish the story.
Post edited November 14, 2011 by kalirion
Posted November 14, 2011
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Profanity: Huh, thanks for the answers. I have plenty of adventure games to play trough, I just thought this one was something extraordinary.
I wouldn't be quite as harsh as bazilisek. The game is slow (it really is only one game in two parts. People aren't exaggerating that) and lacks any real spark of life - be it humour, or action. If you're looking for something very placid that takes itself seriously then it's above average. Otherwise it's not really for you.
Posted November 14, 2011
On Syberia

I'd like to add a few cents regarding Syberia. While I can, to a certain extent, agree that the plot and puzzles aren't among the strongest in the genre, I'd say that this game is all about the world and the assosciations it evokes. The fantastical possibilities that arise in your mind as a result of taking in the scenes weigh at least as much as what occurs in the game itself. Put in plain language, it really triggers the imagination.

- oldschool mechanical toys
- art deco/art nouveau
- steampunk
- early Russian space exploration/kosmonauts
- the Stone Age/shamanism (Syberia 2)

If you find at least a couple of the above themes intriguing, chances are, you're going to get something out of these games. Because, in my view, they are the "gestalt" of the Syberia experience, all presented through the childlike psyche of Hans Voralberg, the object of your quest.

Apologies are in order if this post reads too much like an acid trip. And yes, I'm a fan. (of the games, that is:)
Posted November 14, 2011
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nimbo77: - early Russian space exploration/kosmonauts
That one drunk whose flight arches from the first game right into the second?
Posted November 14, 2011
Buddy highlighted a few *MUST* on GoG, Syberia I & II being two of them. I've always trusted his judgement and don't have any regrets on any games he's suggested. Nimbo's post offers more explanation as to why but simply put, it's grabbed my attention and I'm enjoying it.
Posted November 14, 2011
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nimbo77: - early Russian space exploration/kosmonauts
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grviper: That one drunk whose flight arches from the first game right into the second?
I might have put too much weight to that particular theme, but I guess it's the Jules Verne thing that triggers in the mind. All you need is one character, drunk or not:)
Posted November 14, 2011
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nimbo77: On Syberia

I'd like to add a few cents regarding Syberia. While I can, to a certain extent, agree that the plot and puzzles aren't among the strongest in the genre, I'd say that this game is all about the world and the assosciations it evokes. The fantastical possibilities that arise in your mind as a result of taking in the scenes weigh at least as much as what occurs in the game itself. Put in plain language, it really triggers the imagination.

- oldschool mechanical toys
- art deco/art nouveau
- steampunk
- early Russian space exploration/kosmonauts
- the Stone Age/shamanism (Syberia 2)

If you find at least a couple of the above themes intriguing, chances are, you're going to get something out of these games. Because, in my view, they are the "gestalt" of the Syberia experience, all presented through the childlike psyche of Hans Voralberg, the object of your quest.

Apologies are in order if this post reads too much like an acid trip. And yes, I'm a fan. (of the games, that is:)
You rascal... Too many varying opinions!
Posted November 14, 2011
I may as well add my 2 pence while the threads active:

I think Syberia is an awesome game. Not because of puzzles, most of them are quite straight forward, some are annoyingly based around pixel hunting (especially that mammoth drawing). It is an awesome game because it has real character, and a real story. It's about how the character 'grows as a person' throughout her journey. She starts off a really irritating city lawyer type, and those phone calls from her friends make you want to headbutt the desk. However you see the character develop, and she detaches from the 'plastic' lifestyle she had.

If you want a good story then it's worth it. If you're after a good 'game' then it's not.
Posted November 14, 2011
The last couple of messages threw me back on the Syberia ship. After all, it's on a sale so I just bought it.

This might form a trust in you, though so far it might go either way... random variable, until I've actually tried it.

Anyway, once again, thanks for your opinions. Continue sharing and asking.
Posted November 14, 2011
I'll add a notch in favor of Syberia. Its what I consider a gateway game. If you like adventure games, I think you will LOVE Syberia. But Syberia is so well done, many who aren't adventure fans tend to like it. It gets them in the genre looking for more just like it.

Some of the puzzles are frustrating (as all adventure games are), but the plot and storytelling are very well done. Perfect? no. Must play? I'd say so, especially for as cheap as they can be.

Check out some of the youtube vids, linked below is the intro vid which is one of my favorites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YovDXKjqPKU

As mentioned, it has its flaws, but still ranks in the top 10 all time adventure games in my book, probably in the top 5 if I really laid them all out objectively.
Posted November 14, 2011
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Profanity: This might form a trust in you, though so far it might go either way... random variable, until I've actually tried it.
Yes, that's the thing about this game, I think. Come to think of it, that's true for any game:)
Hope you enjoy the game, and if not, at least you wonæt have to wonder!
Posted November 14, 2011
I need to chime in and state how much I love the Syberia games. They're wonderful! The game takes itself somewhat seriously but still has very much humour instilled into it. Actually, that's what makes all the heartwarming moments all the more powerful emotionally(and that's saying a lot considering the games feature the coldest weather imaginable). Maybe it's just me but I got sucked into the narrative, emotionally involved and here I was rooting for the characters. Now that I think of it the story reminds me of the movie "Up" but just deeper, where you help an old man on his "last" adventure.
The ends of both games are quite powerful if you care even one bit about the characters, there may have been some flaws in the puzzle elements or such. I wouldn't know, I was too engaged in the story to notice anyway :P

Again: very touching tale...
Posted November 14, 2011
I have never played Syberia but I have heard good things about it.

Now has anyone played gangland? I'm wondering about buying it
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