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Crosmando:
Exactly ;]

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Cheers to all the haters, as I can see, nearly all my posts got downrated, even the ones in which I regained my cool (because as I said before, I got a little bit carried away, which happens to me sometimes when sensitive issues are discussed - lack of respect [in this case: for a person's work], and depriving me of rights for the benefit of others is one of them).

And really, I wholeheartedly encourage you to read on communism. If you knew anything about it, you'd agree that the case in which an author must transfer his work to become public domain, losing control over what happens to his creative works, and preventing him from monetary gain, is an idea that communists would really like, after all this is nothing but another incarnation of collective property.

Now go on, hate me for your lack of knowledge, or whatever other reason you might still have ;]

Tbh, I know that you're gonna downrate this, so it's not like I'm writing this to prevent you from doing it. Haters gonna hate, thats what they do.
Just so you know, I didnt downrate any of you, as I find it pointless and childlish, the case would have to be really extreme in order for me to use that feature.

That is all, no more ranting from me.

[sorry for the disturbance, and derailing the topic with this post]
Post edited February 04, 2014 by DrYaboll
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Starmaker: Three words: Interplay.
I think you're supposed to say how many words will come after "# words:".
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Crosmando: Anyone who thinks pirating a game because of it's full of CEG/Securom/Starforce malware, is the same as someone being able to plagiarize another's work... well they obviously live in a different world than the rest of us. If you can't tell the difference between DRM and intellectual property, I suggest reading a book.

Bringing up random unrelated posts I made months ago about a completely different topic, to try and hijack this thread and distract from your obviously wrong views - is extreme cowardice.
The fact that you don't even realise how you got owned is hilarious. Or maybe you do, but this is your feeble attempt at saving grace? You were preaching of how we can't have PD because devs would lose money! I mean the relation is beautiful.
Your humiliation here is almost as grand as when dirtyharry50 got schooled by the Grimoire developer. You can be like him and say reality is wrong, or you can disappear like most do in such a situation, or you can say ok you got me, maybe PD isn't so bad.
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DrYaboll: Now go on, hate me for your lack of knowledge, or whatever other reason you might still have ;]
If you believe that people are downrepping you out of spite when you're putting arrogant bullshit like that up there, then that's your problem right there.
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jamotide: The fact that you don't even realise how you got owned is hilarious. Or maybe you do, but this is your feeble attempt at saving grace? You were preaching of how we can't have PD because devs would lose money! I mean the relation is beautiful.
Your humiliation here is almost as grand as when dirtyharry50 got schooled by the Grimoire developer. You can be like him and say reality is wrong, or you can disappear like most do in such a situation, or you can say ok you got me, maybe PD isn't so bad.
Or I can say that my position on DRM is irrelevant and unrelated to my opposition to PD, which is what I did. The fact that you would even say "owned" is just more infantile bullshit from someone who needs to bring up unrelated crap to distract from the fact that you have terrible, wrong opinions. And that you would have no problem with fan-fic writers being able to legally make and sell their trash as official canon products.

People spend years, and in the case of video games companies spend millions, to make these creative works, they are and should remain sole property of the company who paid for them to be made, without whom they wouldn't exist.

I could not care for any leftie crap about it belong to "society". I can tell you, if I wrote a novel, and then some years down the track someone wrote a novel in the same universe, with same characters, setting, and story - a sequel, but without my permission - I would sue their asses off.

You'll have to forgive me if I develop an image of a morbidly obese sweaty middle-aged man living in a basement desperately waiting for those 13 years to end so Mass Effect can become public domain and he can earn a "living" making terribly written (but still official!) ME novels full of "romance".
Post edited February 04, 2014 by Crosmando
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DrYaboll: Now go on, hate me for your lack of knowledge, or whatever other reason you might still have ;]
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jamyskis: If you believe that people are downrepping you out of spite when you're putting arrogant bullshit like that up there, then that's your problem right there.
Well, and what are you doing now ? You're calling what I say bullshit. Isnt this arrogant? I didnt offend you, nor did I mean to offend anyone.

And tell me, what is arrogant about it? I simply dont believe that someone who is aware of what is communism, and what is collective property which is one of its main ideas, wouldnt see these similarities...

If someone knows about that stuff, and disagrees, he's free to express it. I made an assumption, and he's free to prove me wrong. What is arrogant about that?

Ideal world would be the one in which every one of us, and his work was protected. Yours included. My ideas dont mean harm to anyone, whereas the notion of public domain does bring some harm to the author.
I dont see how that is unreasonable.

If you're one of the haters - ok, hate me. I dont hate you, I dont have any reasons for it, I respect everyone here, because why should I not? If everyone respected each other the world would be a better place.

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And I definitely think that some of it was out of spite. As I said, I got a little bit carried away (these posts, I could try to comprehend someone wanting to downrep them), but yeah - even the normal ones got downrepped. So someone specifically targeted me, and all my posts for saying sth he didnt like.
Post edited February 04, 2014 by DrYaboll
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DrYaboll:
I uprep you for all it matters. ;)

All idealist with desillusional ideas get some major downrep spanking from me.
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Strijkbout: I uprep you for all it matters. ;)

All idealist with desillusional ideas get some major downrep spanking from me.
Most of the whole GOG community board is full of delusional fairies who have opinions that are completely naive.
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Strijkbout: All idealist with desillusional ideas get some major downrep spanking from me.
A wish for copyright laws to be massively overhauled is not idealism, it's a necessity. The only one for whom copyright laws work now are distributors and big companies - there's no good in them for either the creators or the consumers

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Crosmando: Most of the whole GOG community board is full of delusional fairies who have opinions that are completely naive.
Well you are quite welcome to leave :-P
Post edited February 04, 2014 by Fenixp
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Crosmando: Or I can say that my position on DRM is irrelevant and unrelated to my opposition to PD, which is what I did.
Ah, so like dirtyharry50 you chose the reality is wrong approach. I am glad, that is the most fun one! Owned, pwned, intellectually bested, you can chose the term that suits you, the reality stays the same, you lost.


Don't even think you can get away with trying to make this about your position on DRM. No, this is not about that position (a position which I share), this is about how your justifications for "PD=bad" clash with how you justify your anti-DRM position. That is why he copied those links to your posts together, that is why we laugh at you now.
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jackalKnight: 40-50 years seems like a reasonable compromise IMO. Most properties do not make money and become orphaned works after 50.
Well the copyright of Jenő Rejtő's works expired after 70 years after his death .
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Strijkbout: All idealist with desillusional ideas get some major downrep spanking from me.
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Fenixp: A wish for copyright laws to be massively overhauled is not idealism, it's a necessity. The only one for whom copyright laws work now are distributors and big companies - there's no good in them for either the creators or the consumers
not to mention education...

you will not believe the amount of red tape and regulations you would need to go through to make use of copyrighted material in education.

"We could be showing you how to do this, and you could have been using XYZ as a useful example to learn from, however the regulations prohibit us to show you more than 10% of the work. This PowerPoint will be made available online later for those of you who who missed the class, but due to regulations all images have been deleted. You will need to use your imagination"
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Fenixp: A wish for copyright laws to be massively overhauled is not idealism, it's a necessity. The only one for whom copyright laws work now are distributors and big companies - there's no good in them for either the creators or the consumers
This is true, however there is a lot of injustice in the world. A lot of necessities to be adressed.

Those who have more power fk up the ass those who have less. It has always been like that, and it propably will always be like that. Unfortunately.
Laws of the jungle have never really stopped to function, they only progressed into other areas of life.
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jamotide: No, this is not about that position (a position which I share), this is about how your justifications for "PD=bad" clash with how you justify your anti-DRM position.
No, they don't. Intellectual property and DRM are completely different things. Owning a copy of a game is different than owning the entire property of that game. You are a mentally stunted child an a fucking fruitcake if you can't differentiate them. And your quote grabbing third-world buddy is just as stupid for trying to hijack the discussion.

I guess that's the standard tactic though, ignore someone's argue and go straight into digging up unrelated quotes from their posting history to distract. You are a piece of work.
Post edited February 04, 2014 by Crosmando
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jamotide: No, this is not about that position (a position which I share), this is about how your justifications for "PD=bad" clash with how you justify your anti-DRM position.
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Crosmando: No, they don't. Intellectual property and DRM are completely different things. Owning a copy of a game is different than owning the entire property of that game. You are a mentally stunted child an a fucking fruitcake if you can't differentiate them. And your quote grabbing third-world buddy is just as stupid for trying to hijack the discussion.

I guess that's the standard tactic though, ignore someone's argue and go straight into digging up unrelated quotes from their posting history to distract. You are a piece of work.
about now is a very good time to turn off your screen, take a deep breath and count slowly to 10.