Posted February 05, 2014
Because... I think the right of artists/authors/creators to own their work, in many cases their lives work, is an important thing. Because these people and companies put lots of time and money into creating these works, and for that reason they deserve to own them.
Ok, either you don't know what either "stifle" or "dispute" means. Btw, our culture is continually recycled, not sure how you did not notice this so far.
And that's a good reason why PD would be so damaging, because Western culture is so crass and exploitative, how everything is squeezed dry and milked for all it's worth. It would be an apocalypse of shit raining down if PD existed at 20 years, and nothing would be sacred.
I guess in Crosmando world, we are doomed even without PD.
Current Western society is incredibly creatively bankrupt. I mentioned about this over in that superheroes thread:
The 60's had it's own culture, it didn't just copy the 50's, the 70's had it's own culture, the 80's and 90's too, and so on. There's obviously always crossover. But we are currently living in an extreme period of culture cannibalism due to the fact that the modern (Western) society is complete shit... so we cannibalize shit from previous "golden times" when it was better. Of course it was shit then too, but not as shit as now.
The "God" of comics, Alan Moore, pretty much had it right:
"To my mind, this embracing of what were unambiguously children's characters at their mid-20th century inception seems to indicate a retreat from the admittedly overwhelming complexities of modern existence," he wrote to Ó Méalóid. "It looks to me very much like a significant section of the public, having given up on attempting to understand the reality they are actually living in, have instead reasoned that they might at least be able to comprehend the sprawling, meaningless, but at-least-still-finite 'universes' presented by DC or Marvel Comics. I would also observe that it is, potentially, culturally catastrophic to have the ephemera of a previous century squatting possessively on the cultural stage and refusing to allow this surely unprecedented era to develop a culture of its own, relevant and sufficient to its times."
Post-modernism at it's logical conclusion. Reality is too harsh and too complex for the peasants, better believe in superheroes as some kind of "modern mythology".
So it really doesn't matter to you that canon is broken, you just felt to mention it randomly.
It is important to me personally, but it's not the main issue at stake, it's just a bad symptom of PD. PD itself is the bad idea.
Please stay on topic, nobody wants states to seize assets.
You want "the public" to own all intellectual property after 20 years has passed, sounds like seizure to me.
Yes but you have no arguments for that argument, because Ctlhhulhu saves the world does no damage to the original IP holder.
That's because their is no rights holder for Lovecraft's work anymore, it's Public Domain, and this is the result, worthless hacks parasitically using it to make some cheap JRPG.
And yes, it is damaging to the Cthulhu mythos overall that that game exists, because it does not accurately represent it in-canon, it's just a childish joke.
Why?
Why not.
Yeah,so?
If you can't see the issue, there's no point explaining it to you.
And why is that bad?
Why do you reckon fucknuts? Because it's profiting from someone's else's work.
I'm pretty sure you will.
No, I will not.
And we're still glad it exists. Ad it does no damage to Lovecraft.
It does enormous damage to it, by being disloyal to the canon/lore, creating confusion and wrong impressions and ideas of what Lovecraft's works actually were about.
Fenixp: Dude, you're ... You're talking to Crosmando here. As per usual, it doesn't matter what's "right" according to anyone but him - he even knows what I like better than me for crying out loud :D Lovecraftian is not a first-person action-shooter where you go round head-shotting cultists and abominations = Says anyone with a functioning brain who has read his stories
A Lovecraftian game would you know - have no weapons - or at least no weapons would be used, and the gameplay would be like a detective adventure. Unless you can point me to one of Lovecraft's short stories where the main character goes round shooting creatures.
But of course expecting talentless hacks not to make a shallow action-game to sell to stupid casuals is probably asking too much. For your average "gamer" anything that instead action is "boring".
Ok, either you don't know what either "stifle" or "dispute" means. Btw, our culture is continually recycled, not sure how you did not notice this so far.
I guess in Crosmando world, we are doomed even without PD.
The 60's had it's own culture, it didn't just copy the 50's, the 70's had it's own culture, the 80's and 90's too, and so on. There's obviously always crossover. But we are currently living in an extreme period of culture cannibalism due to the fact that the modern (Western) society is complete shit... so we cannibalize shit from previous "golden times" when it was better. Of course it was shit then too, but not as shit as now.
The "God" of comics, Alan Moore, pretty much had it right:
"To my mind, this embracing of what were unambiguously children's characters at their mid-20th century inception seems to indicate a retreat from the admittedly overwhelming complexities of modern existence," he wrote to Ó Méalóid. "It looks to me very much like a significant section of the public, having given up on attempting to understand the reality they are actually living in, have instead reasoned that they might at least be able to comprehend the sprawling, meaningless, but at-least-still-finite 'universes' presented by DC or Marvel Comics. I would also observe that it is, potentially, culturally catastrophic to have the ephemera of a previous century squatting possessively on the cultural stage and refusing to allow this surely unprecedented era to develop a culture of its own, relevant and sufficient to its times."
Post-modernism at it's logical conclusion. Reality is too harsh and too complex for the peasants, better believe in superheroes as some kind of "modern mythology".
So it really doesn't matter to you that canon is broken, you just felt to mention it randomly.
Please stay on topic, nobody wants states to seize assets.
Yes but you have no arguments for that argument, because Ctlhhulhu saves the world does no damage to the original IP holder.
And yes, it is damaging to the Cthulhu mythos overall that that game exists, because it does not accurately represent it in-canon, it's just a childish joke.
Why?
Yeah,so?
And why is that bad?
I'm pretty sure you will.
And we're still glad it exists. Ad it does no damage to Lovecraft.

A Lovecraftian game would you know - have no weapons - or at least no weapons would be used, and the gameplay would be like a detective adventure. Unless you can point me to one of Lovecraft's short stories where the main character goes round shooting creatures.
But of course expecting talentless hacks not to make a shallow action-game to sell to stupid casuals is probably asking too much. For your average "gamer" anything that instead action is "boring".
Post edited February 05, 2014 by Crosmando