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Posted December 28, 2012
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Thunderstone: I hope the OUYA succeeds, because I think the console market is due for a shakeup. I mean their are only three players in the console market and they are all closed source and don't like people tinkering with their own personal property *glares at Sony*

Judging by how much support given to the project other people seem to agree. I may pick one up depending on how things go, but right now I don't have much for disposable income.
How is it that Sony does it worse than Nintendo and Mircrosoft?
Post edited December 28, 2012 by Elmofongo
Posted December 28, 2012
Nintendo doesn't get E-stores
Microsoft had quality control issues with the 360
The main issue with the PS3, other than the cost, is that they ended some of the special features it had (like Linux support and backwards compatibility with PS2)
Posted December 28, 2012
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Thunderstone: I hope the OUYA succeeds, because I think the console market is due for a shakeup. I mean there are only three players in the console market and they are all closed source and don't like people tinkering with their own consoles, which are their own personal property *glares at Sony*

Judging by how much support given to the project other people seem to agree. I may pick one up depending on how things go, but right now I don't have much for disposable income.
With its preorders it already got more success than most other open source console thingies but to thing that they will get anywhere near to a thread to the big three is delusional.
Posted December 28, 2012
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Thunderstone: I hope the OUYA succeeds, because I think the console market is due for a shakeup. I mean their are only three players in the console market and they are all closed source and don't like people tinkering with their own personal property *glares at Sony*

Judging by how much support given to the project other people seem to agree. I may pick one up depending on how things go, but right now I don't have much for disposable income.
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Elmofongo: How is it that Sony does it worse than Nintendo and Mircrosoft?
At least Nintendo hasn't tried to wage war against hackers, and their is a thriving Pokemon ROM hacking community. And at least Microsoft is relatively open with Windows. Anyone can code up a game on Windows.

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Thunderstone: 'snip
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Darkcloud: With its preorders it already got more success than most other open source console thingies but to thing that they will get anywhere near to a thread to the big three is delusional.
Where did I imply that they will get as big as the big 3? All I said was shake things up, they don't have to be big to be notable.
Post edited December 28, 2012 by Thunderstone
Posted December 28, 2012
You know what'd be awesome? Counter-crowdsourcing. Imagine if you could donate negative dollars which would eliminate positive dollars 1-1. Donate the negative dollars to Childsplay. I might be on to something here...true capitalism!
Post edited December 28, 2012 by anjohl
Posted December 28, 2012
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Elmofongo: How is it that Sony does it worse than Nintendo and Mircrosoft?
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Thunderstone: At least Nintendo hasn't tried to wage war against hackers, and their is a thriving Pokemon ROM hacking community. And at least Microsoft is relatively open with Windows. Anyone can code up a game on Windows.

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Darkcloud: With its preorders it already got more success than most other open source console thingies but to thing that they will get anywhere near to a thread to the big three is delusional.
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Thunderstone: Where did I imply that they will get as big as the big 3? All I said was shake things up, they don't have to be big to be notable.
The thing is to really shake things up they have to be competition for them otherwise they will only inspire them because they might see some way to make more money if they add something their consoles lack that the OUYA has and the only thing I can see there is a kind of open app store which most of them try to add anyway because Google and Apple had great success with theirs.
Posted December 28, 2012
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Thunderstone: At least Nintendo hasn't tried to wage war against hackers, and their is a thriving Pokemon ROM hacking community. And at least Microsoft is relatively open with Windows. Anyone can code up a game on Windows.


Where did I imply that they will get as big as the big 3? All I said was shake things up, they don't have to be big to be notable.
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Darkcloud: The thing is to really shake things up they have to be competition for them otherwise they will only inspire them because they might see some way to make more money if they add something their consoles lack that the OUYA has and the only thing I can see there is a kind of open app store which most of them try to add anyway because Google and Apple had great success with theirs.
True, but I think the $8 Million they got from their kickstarter is enough to show their is some demand for a hacker friendly console. I think they really should be spending part of that money on advertising if they want a chance to succeed and I'm talking TV ads and game magazine ads. They need to get their name out there to the mainstream. If people don't even know the name then they are not likely to buy it and will by default only go with the big three without giving them a chance.
Post edited December 28, 2012 by Thunderstone
Posted December 28, 2012
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Thunderstone: True, but I think the $8 Million they got from their kickstarter is enough to show their is some demand for a hacker friendly console. I think they really should be spending part of that money on advertising if they want a chance to succeed and I'm talking TV ads and game magazine ads. They need to get their name out there to the mainstream. If people don't even know the name then they are not likely to buy it and will by default only go with the big three without giving them a chance.
I think the bigger competition for the Ouya would be an Apple console/tv interface for the ipad/iphone if they ever made one. The target market for iOS games is more similar to what the system seems to be early on if it went for mainstream appeal beyond the type that would want an open source console.

Has anything been mentioned for the system regarding copy protection methods? I've heard piracy is fairly bad on Android devices, so theres a chance it could hit the Oyua too. However any kind of DRM may interfere with the open nature of the console depending how its implemented.

I was a bit disappointed to hear you can't use normal Android apps on it. If I got one the first thing I thought to do was get my Humble Android games and try them out first.
Posted December 29, 2012
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Thunderstone: At least Nintendo hasn't tried to wage war against hackers,
Wait,,, what ?

I am not sure if you comment was meant to be sarcastic, because Nintendo is extremely aggressive against hacker & mod chip / unofficial cartridge makers, even going as far as managing to make it illegal to even own a R4 cartridge (or equivalent) in some countries.
Posted December 29, 2012
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Fictionvision: Has anything been mentioned for the system regarding copy protection methods? I've heard piracy is fairly bad on Android devices, so theres a chance it could hit the Oyua too. However any kind of DRM may interfere with the open nature of the console depending how its implemented.
The "Open" part was because anybody would be able to develop for it, for free, not that DRM wouldn't or shouldn't be used.
Posted December 29, 2012
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WhiteElk: i do. It may well be the first console i buy. It's a totally open platform. All the things i hate about consoles is absent in the OUYA. i can hack and tweek to my own beat on this thing.
That is exactly the reasons I won't buy a console.
Posted December 29, 2012
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gameon: I would have been interested, but now i have an android tablet which has loads of apps/games and is portable too.
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Dzsono: Yeah, my recent tablet purchase has killed any remaining desire to try the OUYA. Still, $99 is super cheap. I'll keep tabs on consumer reaction for the sake of my own curiousity.
I do like to see how a business works and competes against the bigger corporations. If the Ouya has Linux or some sort of operating system compatability, then it could make sense as a cheap computer.
Posted December 29, 2012
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Yeah, another casual gaming-focused tiny machine is ready to monetize "games" up your ass. The world is a better place now -_-"
Posted December 29, 2012
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gameon: If the Ouya has Linux or some sort of operating system compatability, then it could make sense as a cheap computer.
It runs Android, so it's compatible (if nothing else, then through recompilation) but doesn't have an X server so normal GUI applications are out. Likely someone will make a Debian or Arch based distro for the thing. Personally though, for that purpose, I'd opt for a Raspberry Pi (then again, I already have two of those).
Posted December 29, 2012
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Thunderstone: At least Nintendo hasn't tried to wage war against hackers,
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Gersen: Wait,,, what ?

I am not sure if you comment was meant to be sarcastic, because Nintendo is extremely aggressive against hacker & mod chip / unofficial cartridge makers, even going as far as managing to make it illegal to even own a R4 cartridge (or equivalent) in some countries.
Heres your difference
Nintendo: "Hey your producing hardware to bypass our security and selling it for big bucks stop or we sue!"
Sony:"WTF DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE TINKERING WITH THE HARDWARE YOU BOUGHT?! YOU DIDN'T BUY THAT WE JUST RENT IT TO YOU! NOW STOP THAT AND HERES YOUR LAWSUIT STOPPING YOU GETTING ANYTHING FROM US IN THE FUTURE!!11"
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