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This is my favourite topic
Posted January 08, 2013
/me downreps everyone in topic

/jk
Posted January 08, 2013
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langurmonkey: *snip*
Okay, so that post was kind of cool until you added the part about the sheep and the nazis. Those are just too cheap, and cheap parts can bring the whole locomotive down. Sometimes less is more.
Posted January 08, 2013
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Sargon: Now someone is behaving the same way against Keeveek. It is quite lousy. And I'm not even talking
about downreping as a way to give feedback to a certain post (although there are far better ways
to do this), I'm talking about the general downreping of posts from certain persons
regardless of the post itself.
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Soyeong: How do you tell the difference between downreping done because someone strongly disliked what they had to say and downreping done regardless of the post itself?
Sometimes the post is really too vanilla to be offensive to anyone. Simple replies like, "yeah I played that one" or "I bought it too, great deal" don't really merit hitting a rep button, I'm pretty sure anyone downrepping those is doing it because they don't like the person, rather than the post.
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Krypsyn: I personally have never had a problem with being down-repped, and I have said some things that many people have disagreed with (mainly in political type threads). I'd like to think it is because I try hard not to make my arguments personal (I do fail at this occasionally) or obvious flame-bait, but maybe I have just been lucky. I have no idea.

Generally speaking, I agree with DarrkPhoenix on this issue. I like the idea of a fairly self-moderated community, and reputation is one way to achieve that end. However, I have seen a few folks down-repped for reasons I think don't warrant it. My solution is to just up-rep the post in question and move on. In cases where I notice massive down-voting for what I feel are questionable reasons, I tend to leave a post expressing my bewilderment/objection as well. I am not sure what else can be done about it.

In the end, I think a forum reputation is secondary to how people actually think of you. Regardless of what someone's forum reputation is, I tend to judge them on the content and merits of each individual post. I would suppose most people think the same way; at least anyone whose opinion I actually care about. That is what people mean when they say that forum reputation doesn't matter.
People don't always agree with you, but you're articulate and not really aiming any kind of nastiness at anyone in particular, which goes a long way. There's certain members of this forum who have minority opinions and pretty much begin by calling people names, not surprisingly they're downrepped;)
Post edited January 08, 2013 by orcishgamer
Posted January 08, 2013
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langurmonkey: *snip*
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Adzeth: Okay, so that post was kind of cool until you added the part about the sheep and the nazis. Those are just too cheap, and cheap parts can bring the whole locomotive down. Sometimes less is more.
Well I'm not perfect. I was being lazy.
Posted January 08, 2013
Eh, thats indeed a losy behavior.. Throwing rocks in the dark sold me, just send PM to have a beef with your griefs, i say!
Posted January 08, 2013
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Soyeong: How do you tell the difference between downreping done because someone strongly disliked what they had to say and downreping done regardless of the post itself?
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orcishgamer: Sometimes the post is really too vanilla to be offensive to anyone. Simple replies like, "yeah I played that one" or "I bought it too, great deal" don't really merit hitting a rep button, I'm pretty sure anyone downrepping those is doing it because they don't like the person, rather than the post.
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Krypsyn: I personally have never had a problem with being down-repped, and I have said some things that many people have disagreed with (mainly in political type threads). I'd like to think it is because I try hard not to make my arguments personal (I do fail at this occasionally) or obvious flame-bait, but maybe I have just been lucky. I have no idea.

Generally speaking, I agree with DarrkPhoenix on this issue. I like the idea of a fairly self-moderated community, and reputation is one way to achieve that end. However, I have seen a few folks down-repped for reasons I think don't warrant it. My solution is to just up-rep the post in question and move on. In cases where I notice massive down-voting for what I feel are questionable reasons, I tend to leave a post expressing my bewilderment/objection as well. I am not sure what else can be done about it.

In the end, I think a forum reputation is secondary to how people actually think of you. Regardless of what someone's forum reputation is, I tend to judge them on the content and merits of each individual post. I would suppose most people think the same way; at least anyone whose opinion I actually care about. That is what people mean when they say that forum reputation doesn't matter.
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orcishgamer: People don't always agree with you, but you're articulate and not really aiming any kind of nastiness at anyone in particular, which goes a long way. There's certain members of this forum who have minority opinions and pretty much begin by calling people names, not surprisingly they're downrepped;)
If all printers were determined not to print anything till they were sure it would offend nobody, there would be very little printed. - Benjamin Franklin

It is too bad, most Americans today, do not believe in this quote. My point is, sometimes you have to offend people to say what you want to say, properly. It seems crazy that you desire a forum without nastiness.
Post edited January 08, 2013 by langurmonkey
Posted January 08, 2013
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Sargon: ...
I have similar feelings.

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_and_constructive_criticism
Posted January 08, 2013
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langurmonkey: If all printers were determined not to print anything till they were sure it would offend nobody, there would be very little printed. - Benjamin Franklin

It is too bad, most Americans today, do not believe in this quote. My point is, sometimes you have to offend people to say what you want to say, properly. It seems crazy that you desire a forum without nastiness.
I didn't say you weren't free to say and offend, by all means do so, don't be surprised when people react, though, that is their way of responding, whether it's good or bad, it's a tool and they'll use it.

There's also useful ways of debating or having a discussion and ways that are a pure waste of time, the latter vastly outnumber the former, and unsurprisingly are more commonly encountered.

FWIW, I've popped off at people well before I should have at times, I simply take it as a learning experience.

In the end, if you're sure you've communicated well, then there's no reason to sweat the eventual response, good or bad. If you don't know that, then you should work on it, it builds character and is a useful skill, both.
Post edited January 08, 2013 by orcishgamer
Posted January 08, 2013
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langurmonkey: I've heard other Romanian sayings and agree with them. But I disagree with this saying. I think the thought that the majority is always right and the minority always is wrong is wrong.
Then you did not understand it. It's not a minority vs majority thing. It's not necessarily about right/wrong (it can be) but more about being an asshole, ignorant, troll, etc. Before blaming everyone around you maybe take a look at yourself and at how you express yourself. That is all.
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Tallima: After just over 1000 days on GOG, I have learned that posts with the most activity are about:

- religion
- homosexuality
- politics
- giveaways
And copyright/piracy. That's also a very popular subject.
Post edited January 08, 2013 by Aningan
Posted January 08, 2013
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langurmonkey: I've heard other Romanian sayings and agree with them. But I disagree with this saying. I think the thought that the majority is always right and the minority always is wrong is wrong.
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Aningan: Then you did not understand it. It's not a minority vs majority thing. It's not necessarily about right/wrong (it can be) but more about being an asshole, ignorant, troll, etc. Before blaming everyone around you maybe take a look at yourself and at how you express yourself. That is all.
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Tallima: After just over 1000 days on GOG, I have learned that posts with the most activity are about:

- religion
- homosexuality
- politics
- giveaways
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Aningan: And copyright/piracy. That's also a very popular subject.
Then I agree. One should always look in the mirror, even if nobody is telling you are drunk and you should lie down.
Post edited January 08, 2013 by langurmonkey
Posted January 08, 2013
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langurmonkey: Well I'm not perfect. I was being lazy.
If you want us to rally under your banner, you must have the aura of the righteous, not of the superior, so imperfection is insignificant :p
Posted January 08, 2013
Something they could do, I doubt it would be hard to implement (just don't break the forum again!) is I saw on another forum they had thing thats was like "1 users agree with this" or "3 users disagree with this" etc. Maybe give the "-" button a bit of a break...
Posted January 08, 2013
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KylieM: Something they could do, I doubt it would be hard to implement (just don't break the forum again!) is I saw on another forum they had thing thats was like "1 users agree with this" or "3 users disagree with this" etc. Maybe give the "-" button a bit of a break...
Since the community can't agree on what the current system even means and how to use it (downrep people you disagree with or only spam? etc.) I could see a clearer system like this working better. I think three buttons: [AGREE] [DISAGREE] and [REPORT] would make things clear to everyone, and help things run smoother.

I'd just like to say that I disagree with downrepping for no reason other than you disagree with someone's opinion. For example, if someone says something like: "while I agree that your wife is an attractive woman, I'm personally more attracted to mine", then downrepping is ridiculous, no matter how strongly you feel about the issue. On the other hand if someone says "LOL your wife is an ugly ***** compared to my wife, seriously did you beat her to make her that ugly?", then I have no issues with a downrep, or even a report.
Post edited January 08, 2013 by schmea
Posted January 08, 2013
lol this is really getting weird
Posted January 08, 2013
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langurmonkey: Maybe there is something wrong with everyone else if one person is pissing them off.
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langurmonkey: The button has become a cowardly way for people to bully other people.
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langurmonkey: My point is, sometimes you have to offend people to say what you want to say, properly. It seems crazy that you desire a forum without nastiness.
You want to be able to say nasty things, assert that one may be right when everyone else is wrong... and insist that nobody takes even the slightest flak in form of the community's seal of disapproval, as represented by a red bit of text next to a post ?

To me it's a simple choice - either one has the balls to stand up for what they believe in, come hell or high water... or one does not and sits timidly in silence. To demand that people never express their collective disagreement with ideas the poster clearly sees as controversial is... absurd ? Isn't THIS the peak of cowardice ?
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