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Posted April 07, 2010
I can still access Risen on Steam too.
You should take those system requirements with a pinch of salt though. My laptop is considerably better than that and had problems.
Posted April 07, 2010
Have they suitably patched it up yet? I played the demo and it was like a pre-alpha.
Posted April 07, 2010
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stonebro: I can still access Risen on Steam too.
You should take those system requirements with a pinch of salt though. My laptop is considerably better than that and had problems.

Key word bolded. Unless that machine is one of those purpose-built "gaming laptops", you really should expect it to have sub-par performance with games. Additionally, any minimum requirements a games lists should be understood to mean desktops only. With all the low-power and therefore slower components (normal) laptops have, even if they appear on paper to be equivalent to a desktop counterpart, they really aren't.
Either way, I'm out on this game since I exceed everything on those requirements except the all-important video card (I've got a GF 7600). Thanks for posting that info guys!
Post edited April 07, 2010 by cogadh
Posted April 07, 2010
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Themock: Bought this one on day one from steam. And reading this topic I had go and check if I can see the risen page on steam-client. There it was 49.99...
Then went to store.steampowered with opera and again there it was. HMM, time to hidemyass.com. Now it doesn't show up. I think it's licencing issue or something about grumbleweed...
Btw. I live in finland witch is northern Europa so here you can still get this great game.
btw 2: Don't know if cogadh neede them but provided anyway:
System Requirements
OS: Windows XP™ (with Service Pack 3)
Processor: 2 GHz Intel� Pentium™ 4 Single-core Processor
Memory: 1 GB RAM
Graphics: 256 MB DirectX™ 9.0c compatible graphics card (nVidia� GeForce� 7900/ATI Radeon™ X1800 or better)
DirectX�: DirectX™ 9.0c compatible graphic card driver
Hard Drive: 2.5 GB free Hard Drive space
Sound: 100% DirectX™ 9.0c compatible sound card
Controller Support: Keyboard, Mouse

Pretty low requirements for a 2009 game, but then, as I said, the graphics remind me of the older Gothic 3 and not Call of Duty 6 or Halo X (yeah I made these up). I don't mind about this at all, it plays great.
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Navagon: Have they suitably patched it up yet? I played the demo and it was like a pre-alpha.

Patch I have is all right. 1.09xxxxx or something. It has some Gothic-like glitches (seeing through walls, awkward falls, etc.) probably due to the engine and I noticed about 4 or 5 lines in different dialogs along the game that were misplaced (I just started chapter 2 of 4), but nothing game-breaking. Certainly far less buggy than any Gothic game.
Post edited April 07, 2010 by RafaelLopez
Posted April 07, 2010
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stonebro: I can still access Risen on Steam too.
You should take those system requirements with a pinch of salt though. My laptop is considerably better than that and had problems.
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cogadh: Key word bolded. Unless that machine is one of those purpose-built "gaming laptops", you really should expect it to have sub-par performance with games.

It is a gaming laptop at heart, although it doesn't have the current generation of video cards, it has the GT240M with 1GB of RAM, which is basically a lowered clocked 9800. I can run the game fine, I just need to get picky with details. High-res textures are OK with 1GB of RAM, but the pure polygon processing involved with max terrain detail / view distance is crippling.
Anyway, the point is that Risen has high system requirements, and in my experience considerably higher than those listed. But what game doesn't.
Posted April 07, 2010
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RafaelLopez: Patch I have is all right. 1.09xxxxx or something. It has some Gothic-like glitches (seeing through walls, awkward falls, etc.) probably due to the engine and I noticed about 4 or 5 lines in different dialogs along the game that were misplaced (I just started chapter 2 of 4), but nothing game-breaking. Certainly far less buggy than any Gothic game.

Thanks for the info. Was the last patch fairly recent? Is there a chance they're still patching it, or is that it now?
Posted April 07, 2010
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cogadh: Key word bolded. Unless that machine is one of those purpose-built "gaming laptops", you really should expect it to have sub-par performance with games.
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stonebro: It is a gaming laptop at heart, although it doesn't have the current generation of video cards, it has the GT240M with 1GB of RAM, which is basically a lowered clocked 9800. I can run the game fine, I just need to get picky with details. High-res textures are OK with 1GB of RAM, but the pure polygon processing involved with max terrain detail / view distance is crippling.
Anyway, the point is that Risen has high system requirements, and in my experience considerably higher than those listed. But what game doesn't.

I originally picked up the 360 version. Recently played the PC version on my laptop, a macbook with extra RAM, its performance is better than the 360 version, looks better. It's performance is better even than Gothic 3 on the same machine.
Posted April 07, 2010
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RafaelLopez: Patch I have is all right. 1.09xxxxx or something. It has some Gothic-like glitches (seeing through walls, awkward falls, etc.) probably due to the engine and I noticed about 4 or 5 lines in different dialogs along the game that were misplaced (I just started chapter 2 of 4), but nothing game-breaking. Certainly far less buggy than any Gothic game.
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Navagon: Thanks for the info. Was the last patch fairly recent? Is there a chance they're still patching it, or is that it now?
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A new patch (1.10) was released recently that fixes some issues like that.
http://forum.dlh.net/thread;threadid__34442.html
Posted April 07, 2010
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Al1: I originally picked up the 360 version. Recently played the PC version on my laptop, a macbook with extra RAM, its performance is better than the 360 version, looks better. It's performance is better even than Gothic 3 on the same machine.

The 360 version seems to have performance bugs, according to the "review" posted by stonebro. I don't doubt it, it sure doesn't look like a game meant for consoles. Also, although it is more recent than Gothic 3, Risen does seem to perform better than Gothic 3 (likely due to less bugs too).
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RafaelLopez: Patch I have is all right. 1.09xxxxx or something. It has some Gothic-like glitches (seeing through walls, awkward falls, etc.) probably due to the engine and I noticed about 4 or 5 lines in different dialogs along the game that were misplaced (I just started chapter 2 of 4), but nothing game-breaking. Certainly far less buggy than any Gothic game.
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Navagon: Thanks for the info. Was the last patch fairly recent? Is there a chance they're still patching it, or is that it now?

Game was released less than a year ago. The demo I played was patched to 1.09 so I think they're still supporting it. Chautemoc said there's an even newer patch (I might give it a try).
Post edited April 07, 2010 by RafaelLopez
Posted April 07, 2010
I played Risen to completion in its release state and had no noticeable issues. Some of the problems fixed in the patch are issues I didn't even know about. My only real technical complaint is the lack of an antialiasing setting, but it can easily be forced in the driver. I was able to run it at max settings on my humble system, something I can't do with quite a few recent ports, and it's easily one of the most beautiful RPGs I've played in a while.
The last chapter is the weakest--although certainly no worse than Gothic II's--but it's overall a very enjoyable Gothic-style experience. The ending leaves possibilities open for more games set in the Risen universe, so hopefully they are already hard at work on a sequel or add-on.
If you have had the misfortune of experiencing the horrible Xbox 360 port first, don't let that turn you off the PC version. Unlike so many recent games, Risen was specifically built with the PC in mind; the console version was just an afterthought on the part of the publisher.
Posted April 07, 2010
I have never played any of the Gothic series, is it similar to Morrowind/Oblivion type of game play or is it more akin to Two Worlds and Dark Messiah of Might and Magic?
Posted April 07, 2010
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CrashToOverride: I have never played any of the Gothic series, is it similar to Morrowind/Oblivion type of game play or is it more akin to Two Worlds and Dark Messiah of Might and Magic?

Two world and Dark Messiah are fairly dissimilar. Gothic is a third person view RPG in a open and sandbox world. In that regard it is similar to Two worlds (but way better). The leveling isn't like most other RPGs, you'll get points at each level, but to use those points you'll need to find someone who can train you in a skill. No auto-picking abilities after leveling, if you want to learn to use a sword, you'll find someone who can teach how to use a sword.
In regards to combat the game can be unforgiving in the beginning. Enemies are tough and will kill you if you wander into the wrong area. The early parts of the game can require running away a lot, but later you'll be able to return and wipe the snot out of the same creatures, so there's some comfort in that.
In regards to the world, it isn't ever as big as Morrowind and Oblivion, but big enough to wander around and explore caves, locations, etc. It's a good series if you like RPG's in general (except #3 maybe, that one is a little mundane compared to the other two).
Posted April 07, 2010
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CrashToOverride: I have never played any of the Gothic series, is it similar to Morrowind/Oblivion type of game play or is it more akin to Two Worlds and Dark Messiah of Might and Magic?
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ilves: Two world and Dark Messiah are fairly dissimilar. Gothic is a third person view RPG in a open and sandbox world. In that regard it is similar to Two worlds (but way better). The leveling isn't like most other RPGs, you'll get points at each level, but to use those points you'll need to find someone who can train you in a skill. No auto-picking abilities after leveling, if you want to learn to use a sword, you'll find someone who can teach how to use a sword.
In regards to combat the game can be unforgiving in the beginning. Enemies are tough and will kill you if you wander into the wrong area. The early parts of the game can require running away a lot, but later you'll be able to return and wipe the snot out of the same creatures, so there's some comfort in that.
In regards to the world, it isn't ever as big as Morrowind and Oblivion, but big enough to wander around and explore caves, locations, etc. It's a good series if you like RPG's in general (except #3 maybe, that one is a little mundane compared to the other two).

Damn, I should of picked it up during the Spring Promo. I was thinking about it too. Oh well it will come around again. So is Risen a direct sequel? Or is it one of those "It's made by the same company" quasi sequels?
Posted April 07, 2010
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CrashToOverride: Damn, I should of picked it up during the Spring Promo. I was thinking about it too. Oh well it will come around again. So is Risen a direct sequel? Or is it one of those "It's made by the same company" quasi sequels?

It's essentially Gothic 4, just not named so for legal reasons.
In a sense it is like a reboot because there is a new main character (though he's still nameless), and a new world, etc., but it's basically all of the same elements in a different configuration (this is a good thing, in my opinion). Those who played the Gothic series will recognize a lot of elements and feel very at home, but there's a distinct new feel to it too.
Best thing to do: play Gothic 1-3 (3 with the community patch), then Risen.
Post edited April 07, 2010 by chautemoc
Posted April 07, 2010
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CrashToOverride: It's essentially Gothic 4, just not named so for legal reasons.
In a sense it is like a reboot because there is a new main character (though he's still nameless), and a new world, etc., but it's basically all of the same elements in a different configuration (this is a good thing, in my opinion). Those who played the Gothic series will recognize a lot of elements and feel very at home, but there's a distinct new feel to it too.
Best thing to do: play Gothic 1-3 (3 with the community patch), then Risen.
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chautemoc: Well I guess ill be picking up Gothic one and two here then haha! What was so wrong with number 3?
Post edited April 07, 2010 by CrashToOverride
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