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Posted July 21, 2013
It's a popcorn flick, nothing less, nothing more. It isn't great, but it's totally watchable. Imagine if someone took Godzilla, Transformers and Independence Day and put them in a blender. That's basically what Pacific Rim is.
Posted July 21, 2013
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tinyE: I'm not picking on anyone and I didn't even read all of these post but I did see the term "unrealistic". I don't think the term "unrealistic" belongs in any conversation about this movie or anything even remotely similar.
Maybe "even remotely believable" would be better then. Like that one wouldn't expect a mech weighting millions of tons to be able to move around like a ballerina without any inertia, no matter what. It helps with suspension of disbelief and all that.

Then again, I wasn't commenting on this very movie, I haven't even seen it. Just that generally I'd like to see the slow/heavy kind of mechs in my games and movies, not the ballerina kind making somersaults and cartwheels.
Post edited July 21, 2013 by timppu
Posted July 21, 2013
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eagarza12: It's a popcorn flick, nothing less, nothing more. It isn't great, but it's totally watchable. Imagine if someone took Godzilla, Transformers and Independence Day and put them in a blender. That's basically what Pacific Rim is.
So I know to avoid this one then, thank-you.
Off to go watch StarWars Episode 3.
Posted July 21, 2013
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tinyE: I'm not picking on anyone and I didn't even read all of these post but I did see the term "unrealistic". I don't think the term "unrealistic" belongs in any conversation about this movie or anything even remotely similar. You want "realistic", go see "Schindler's List".

This is a movie about GIANT ROBOTS FIGHTING GIANT MONSTERS!!! By using a term "unrealistic" you are implying that it somehow fails to accurately portray the fighting between giant robots and giant monsters that goes on in real life.

NOW, in all fairness, if this sort of thing actually happens where you live, and you in fact don't think the movie shows these battles as they really happen, then please allow me to be the first to humbly apologize. :D
I would argue that you can't make fictional movie in realistic way. Just compare Star Wars and Alien. One SF is more believable than other (waiting for jokes how Star Wars is more believable than Aliens). If someone would make movie like Black Hawk Down, but with aliens then it would be more realistic than for example Pacific Rim.
Post edited July 21, 2013 by Aver
Posted July 21, 2013
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sanscript: It`s one of those movies like Battleship and Sky-something that ain`t much memorable, pretty bland, but a lot of fun nonetheless... Sci-Fi movies today is like that, usually.
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MobiusArcher: That's not really accurate. Those movies may have been fun, but they were also pretty bad. Pacific Rim isn't bad. Its not a deep movie at all. It doesn't even try to be a deep movie. If you judge the movie like a movie critic, Its not a good movie. Here's the thing though. Most big budget Sci-fi action movies try to deliver so much, but usually fall short. That's not the case with Pacific Rim. It wasn't intended to be a deep movie. It didn't try to have an amazing plot, or great characters. That's why its so much better than any other movie like it. The fight scenes are kind of the point of the movie, and it doesn't let anything get in the way of that. The plot and characters are more or less there to support that goal, not get in the way like they do in Transformers, and the newer Star Wars movies. Because of all this, Pacific Rim is not going to be what a lot of people are looking for. Its the greatest eye candy movie ever though. I came out of Avatar with very mixed feelings. It had great action and effects, but was pretty let down by the rest of the movie. It had so much hype, and not just for the pretties either. It ended up being arrogant and preachy. It clearly new it was a deep and complex movie, but it wasn't, and that made it feel way shallower than it actually was. None of that crap with Pacific Rim though. I came out of that movie totally energized. I had all the great parts of the movie to talk about, but there was nothing nothing there to be disappointed about. Disappointment comes when something fails to delver what it promised. Pacific Rim delivers exactly what it promises. Nothing more. Nothing Less.
Well, you basically wrote what I wrote only more verbose. I perfectly respect your opinion, and I`m sure I will enjoy it to.
I even felt energized when I came out from American Pie : Reunion, but it too was pretty predictable.

These movies rely heavy on music and/or visuals to captivate the viewer, without much substance. But like I wrote, it`s usually darn fun watching. The faster and harder it get, the more exhilarated, adrenalin pumping you get.
The Man from Earth, with that Pretender guy, are more story/character driven. The question is; what kind of impression lasts in you from watching a movie?

My girlfriend once told me she was somewhat wetty after seeing 300! Was it a brainless movie? Hell yeah!

In the end I`m not a "movie critic". I just recognize different aspect of the movie and try to enjoy it. That`s all.
Posted July 21, 2013
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tinyE: I'm not picking on anyone and I didn't even read all of these post but I did see the term "unrealistic". I don't think the term "unrealistic" belongs in any conversation about this movie or anything even remotely similar. You want "realistic", go see "Schindler's List".

This is a movie about GIANT ROBOTS FIGHTING GIANT MONSTERS!!! By using a term "unrealistic" you are implying that it somehow fails to accurately portray the fighting between giant robots and giant monsters that goes on in real life.

NOW, in all fairness, if this sort of thing actually happens where you live, and you in fact don't think the movie shows these battles as they really happen, then please allow me to be the first to humbly apologize. :D
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Aver: I would argue that you can't make fictional movie in realistic way. Just compare Star Wars and Alien. One SF is more believable than other (waiting for jokes how Star Wars is more believable than Aliens). If someone would make movie like Black Hawk Down, but with aliens then it would be more realistic than for example Pacific Rim.
This makes for great conversation and I would tend to lean toward you being right on the money but if I may play devil's advocate for a second I would offer up that Star Wars isn't sci-fi, it's fantasy. Star Trek is sci-fi.

ALSO interestingly enough I was watching my copy of Alien the other day with the director commentary and Mr. Scott kept going over how unrealistic the movie was and how much it got to him having to let certain things slide to get the story told. Ultimately he would argue that Alien was much less realistic than a lot of the more "far out" movies that we would consider just pure mindless fun.
Posted July 21, 2013
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sanscript: Well, you basically wrote what I wrote only more verbose. I perfectly respect your opinion, and I`m sure I will enjoy it to.
I even felt energized when I came out from American Pie : Reunion, but it too was pretty predictable.
Yea, but mostly because I'm not great at translating what I'm thinking into what I'm saying. Those other movies like Battleship and Skyline were fun in spite of the fact that they were bad. Pacific Rim is just fun. Of course YMMV.

Totally off topic here, but this just came to me:
YMMV = Your mileage may vary. The rest of the world doesn't use the outdated imperial system of measurements anymore. I assume that means the phrase has little meaning to anyone who uses the metric system. Is there an equivalent you use, or do you still just use YMMV as a slang.
Posted July 21, 2013
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MobiusArcher: snip

Totally off topic here, but this just came to me:
YMMV = Your mileage may vary. The rest of the world doesn't use the outdated imperial system of measurements anymore. I assume that means the phrase has little meaning to anyone who uses the metric system. Is there an equivalent you use, or do you still just use YMMV as a slang.
Hehe, when I read "YMMV = Your mileage may vary", my first thought was the amount of gas for a specific length (i.e. fuel for a car or something). I`ve come across others that have used YMMV, but If one is even slightly familiar with some basic knowledge, I`d argue that it still has meaning.

Honestly, I can never seem to really remember what the metric system is, but I`m guessing you meant something along the way like this:
To each to their own liking.
In Norwegian: Smaken er som baken. (Literally it means: The taste is like the butt)



Had of course DuckDuckGo metric system...

[url=http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/metric.html]http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/metric.html[/url] :
"The Metric System

Designed during the French Revolution of the 1790's, the metric system brought order out of the conflicting and confusing traditional systems of weights and measures then being used in Europe".
Posted July 21, 2013
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sanscript: Hehe, when I read "YMMV = Your mileage may vary", my first thought was the amount of gas for a specific length (i.e. fuel for a car or something). I`ve come across others that have used YMMV, but If one is even slightly familiar with some basic knowledge, I`d argue that it still has meaning.

Honestly, I can never seem to really remember what the metric system is, but I`m guessing you meant something along the way like this:
To each to their own liking.
In Norwegian: Smaken er som baken. (Literally it means: The taste is like the butt)
The metric equivalent of a mile is a Kilometer.

Your correct that the possible variation of distance you get on a tank of gas is meaning of the phrase. Its also its origin. And yes, the phrase is now more frequently used to mean something along the lines of "To each to their own liking". Its a bit more specific then that though. When you use the literal meaning of "You're mileage may vary" the mileage can only vary by so much. If you get 50 MPG (miles per gallon) on a highway, your not going to only get 3 MPG on a gravel road. When YMMV is used for non mileage things it also usually has this "within reason" meaning attached to it. It depends on how its used though. My English is probably at a 12 year old's level, so I'm not and expert.
Posted July 21, 2013
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timppu: BTW, does going to 3D theater add anything positive to this movie? I'd like to get the best possible experience.
I would recommend against it. I saw it in 2D, and would offer the following comments:
1. It looked just fine in 2D; I never felt like it was "obviously meant to be seen in 3D" and I was missing something;
2. The movie uses a fair bit of colour, which tends to get washed-out in 3D prints;
3. The movie has a TON of water particle effects, which I'm assuming would have been 3D-ified. I don't know how common this is, but "lots of water particles flying at my face in 3D" is one of my most hated 3D effects - I find it physically painful to look at.
Posted July 21, 2013
I don't really see the appeal of the movie, just like I don't see the appeal of Transfromers. Huge monsters and giant robots really aren't my thing.
Posted July 21, 2013
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timppu: BTW, does going to 3D theater add anything positive to this movie? I'd like to get the best possible experience.
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Azilut: I would recommend against it. I saw it in 2D, and would offer the following comments:
1. It looked just fine in 2D; I never felt like it was "obviously meant to be seen in 3D" and I was missing something;
2. The movie uses a fair bit of colour, which tends to get washed-out in 3D prints;
3. The movie has a TON of water particle effects, which I'm assuming would have been 3D-ified. I don't know how common this is, but "lots of water particles flying at my face in 3D" is one of my most hated 3D effects - I find it physically painful to look at.
To add to this, a friend of mine saw it in 3D after seeing it in 2D. According to him, the 3D added nothing. And, unlike me, he actually doesn't mind 3D. In fact, as far as he was concerned, the 3D in the trailers looked better than in the film.
Posted July 21, 2013
What is the current price difference between 3D and 2D? Am I to assume this varies depending on where you are?
Posted July 21, 2013
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tinyE: I'm not picking on anyone and I didn't even read all of these post but I did see the term "unrealistic". I don't think the term "unrealistic" belongs in any conversation about this movie or anything even remotely similar. You want "realistic", go see "Schindler's List".
Depends what you're referring to. If you're talking about the plot conceit or the technology, then yeah, realism? Do you want a movie about giant robots or not? But there are two respects in which even the craziest fantasy movie needs to be "realistic", or it takes you out of the movie:
1. It needs to follow its own rules (don't establish that blue wands explode in water only to have a character swimming with one at the climax); and
2. The people need to behave at least somewhat like people would actually behave. (Don't have a character whose partner just died laughing and playing volleyball in the next scene.)

While Pacific Rim had little moments of each of these, none of it was bad enough to seriously interrupt my movie experience.
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tomimt: I don't really see the appeal of the movie, just like I don't see the appeal of Transfromers. Huge monsters and giant robots really aren't my thing.
Well yeah, if you don't like Giant Robots Fighting, then you probably shouldn't see a Giant Robots Fighting movie. :p
Post edited July 21, 2013 by Azilut
Posted July 21, 2013
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tinyE:
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Azilut: 2. The people need to behave at least somewhat like people would actually behave. (Don't have a character whose partner just died laughing and playing volleyball in the next scene.)

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Azilut:
Didn't that happen in "Side Out"? :P
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