ET3D: Personal opinion is personal. That's the game I played the most. Played it for several years, and had a lot of fun. The stories are better than in other MMO's I tried, and it's fast to get into the action, and really gives you the feeling you're a powerful hero at the high levels.

nijuu: Not bothered if they lose subscribers. WOW is dropping them like flies as well :).

Pheace: WOW is almost 10 years old though... lol

aluinie: I think the subs will stabalize in a few months even say 750k subscribers which is a fair user base.

I cant comment on the game as i never played it just the Kotr 1 & 2 but i think it is difficult for mmo's to hold peoples attention as they all so far seem to follow the same old ways of grind and grind and i think people are getting fed up with the generic nature of most mmos.

anjohl: I knew TOR would fail, just like I knew Star Trek would fail. BiowarEA can barely make a standard game anymore, let alone an MMO.

Barefoot_Monkey: "Biowarea" sounds like some sort of abdominal infection.

Epitaph666: We need something more dynamic and non-linear (or at least pseudo-non-linear). That's why i've put my last hopes on World Of Darkness. From what i've heard CCP has managed to achieve that with EVE Online on some degree and now they try to implement that on a character based game system (as Vampire : The Masquarade is). Hopefully this will work.

Fred_DM: isn't that what happens to every game that tries to go up against World of Warcraft?

Tizzysawr: I don't see it as a huge issue even when I play SWTOR myself. It's not really a signal that the game sucks (Though it is not without its issues or glaring omissions), but more of a result of the current MMO landscape where there are too many games competing for too few gamers.

In other words, the bubble is kind of about to burst. Come back in a couple of years and there will only be a few big MMOs, many will have died (Age of Conan and Vanguard, for example) and many more will have gone F2P in attempts to stay afloat, some of them also dying after that. I do believe, however, that a few of them will still be around and relatively big (GW2, SWTOR, WoW, EVE and RIFT, for example), but the amount of MMOs released a year will greatly decrease (And that's a good thing - Remember when the launch of a MMO was an event?) and most will stop trying to be "WoW killers"; instead aiming for smaller numbers (1-2 million subscribers is more than enough to keep most games both afloat and with constant updates; RIFT is said to be doing fine with about 700k though that's just a wild estimate).