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wpegg: No my point was back at your point. You asked the benefits you'd see from UAC. I then asked the benefits you see from AV. I'd say that you see the same result. Apparently nothing. This is because you don't see success in security, only failure.
But I know what an AV does which is beneficial to me. That's the critical difference here. I don't know one benefit of UAC I don't already have - with the added benefit of lacking the complications UAC brings.

Despite my asking, nothing you've written so far has shed even the smallest glimmer of light on the subject. So I don't see why I'd be swayed. After all, you're right. I can't see for sure that UAC is doing what I'd want of it until it's proven that it's not.
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KavazovAngel: UAC + MSE + Windows Firewall + Common Sense. Best protection ever. ;)

By the way, the main purpose of UAC is not malware protection. :)
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It is unnecessary that you run so many security suites / programs. :p
I like my setup, and you like yours....
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wpegg: No my point was back at your point. You asked the benefits you'd see from UAC. I then asked the benefits you see from AV. I'd say that you see the same result. Apparently nothing. This is because you don't see success in security, only failure.
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Navagon: But I know what an AV does which is beneficial to me. That's the critical difference here. I don't know one benefit of UAC I don't already have - with the added benefit of lacking the complications UAC brings.

Despite my asking, nothing you've written so far has shed even the smallest glimmer of light on the subject. So I don't see why I'd be swayed. After all, you're right. I can't see for sure that UAC is doing what I'd want of it until it's proven that it's not.
Don't bother.....wpegg and a few others are UAC "fanboys"(for lack of a better term) it seems, who just want people to use the thing because they seem to think it's the bees knees.
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Navagon: Yeah, but with an AV and firewall in place that's not really the case. In any case, I wasn't using "see" in a purely literal sense. I was asking about the benefits to me which don't seem to be something that could be perceived in any sense.
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KavazovAngel: The benefit is user account control.
I can acheive similar results using the security settings/command lines on folders/files/etc without UAC turned on via the security tabs.
Post edited June 22, 2011 by GameRager
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GameRager: Don't bother.....wpegg and a few others are UAC "fanboys"(for lack of a better term) it seems, who just want people to use the thing because they seem to think it's the bees knees.
If I understand correctly, it is wpegg's job to protect his company from the idiots it employs. So it makes sense that to wpegg, UAC is the mutt's nuts. But that doesn't make it any more useful to me.
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GameRager: Don't bother.....wpegg and a few others are UAC "fanboys"(for lack of a better term) it seems, who just want people to use the thing because they seem to think it's the bees knees.
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Navagon: If I understand correctly, it is wpegg's job to protect his company from the idiots it employs. So it makes sense that to wpegg, UAC is the mutt's nuts. But that doesn't make it any more useful to me.
Mutt's nutts? Beneath a Steel Sky reference? Or no? Still ftw either way.
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GameRager: Mutt's nutts? Beneath a Steel Sky reference? Or no? Still ftw either way.
Mutt's Nuts was used in an old UK games mag as their game of distinction award. Quality publication, that.
Of interest:

http://www.interact-sw.co.uk/iangblog/2007/05/09/uacproblem
Post edited June 22, 2011 by wpegg
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GameRager: Mutt's nutts? Beneath a Steel Sky reference? Or no? Still ftw either way.
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Navagon: Mutt's Nuts was used in an old UK games mag as their game of distinction award. Quality publication, that.
Cool, cool.