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spindown: I'm pretty sure George Lucas doesn't read the GOG forums. You could try sending them a letter:

LucasArts
P.O. Box 29908
San Francisco, CA 94129-0908
USA
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jpinsa: Can anybody verify this address? What I would be more than willing to participate in is if all the GOGGERS who want to see LA here could commit (perhaps on a thread) to write a letter to this address in a sort of mass action petition. We would have to verify the address though.
Geez, can you not even be bothered to do a Google search?
http://www.lucasarts.com/company/contact/
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jpinsa: Please, the wishlist is nothing more than a toy to amuse. Just look at how many votes Grim Fandango has and is it here yet?
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cogadh: That's not the point. The wishlist was created so people would stop posting stuff like this and to give GOG some real world numbers to show to publishers when they try to work out deals. All you are doing is necroposting useless old threads.
Although I would love to see LA here, the point of my original post was completely missed. I was very sarcastically trying to point out that ALL these games are or have been downloaded thousands of times, yet men in suits quibble about DRM. Hilarious actually.

I have little to lose, I own original copies of Grim Fandango, COMI, Full Throttle, Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine as well as other LA games.

This LucasArts debate has been active on GOG way before I even joined.
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burgercomics: Hey does LucasArts own the rights to Sam and Max: Hit the Road? If so then I definitely would like to see their games on GOG
LA likely owns the rights to the game, but Steve Purcell owns the rights to the characters, and he'd have to agree too. He works (or has worked) with Telltale to some extent, but I don't know how much he actually has to do with them beyond their Sam & Max games.
I want Outlaws.
Let's get real:the profits Lucasarts would make from a rerelease of their classic games is a very minor factor in their overall business.
And email them will be about as sucessful as online petitions are. And you know how sucesful they are.
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dudalb: Let's get real:the profits Lucasarts would make from a rerelease of their classic games is a very minor factor in their overall business.
And email them will be about as sucessful as online petitions are. And you know how sucesful they are.
Sure, but isn't some profit better than none. Grim Fandango alone has been wishlisted 12 768 times on GOG. At $5.99 that's $76 480.32! (obviously LA won't get all of this) I understand that's probably an "in a perfect world" scenario where all 12000 buy, but still that's just one game out of the many LucasArts classics. What gets me even more is that LA doesn't even have to do anything except sign the contract and GOG would package everything and get it working.

Anyway as I have said before in numerous other threads, Im sure GOG has approached LA with all these facts and figures anyway. I was merely pointing out with my first post that LA is at the moment making 0% profit from these games while people just happily download them for FREE!
Post edited May 03, 2012 by jpinsa
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jpinsa: Sure, but isn't some profit better than none. Grim Fandango alone has been wishlisted 12 768 times on GOG. At $5.99 that's $76 480.32!
That's nothing to George. He doesn't even get out of bed for less than $100k.
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de_Monteynard: You would think that now that the big guys like EA and SquareEnix have joined the DRM-free revolution, LA would also see the light and realise that people will actually buy more GOGs if they are DRM-free rather than via Steam or other DD.
The old stuff on Steam was under their old CEO. LA's current CEO is the type of asshole who doesn't feel the old stuff should be seen ever again.
It will appear here (and back on Steam) as soon as Lucas makes sure they are all patched up to only allow TIE fighters to shoot first. True story.
It seems rather stupid that they won't sell without DRM (if its indeed true)

My old CD copies of Grim Fandango, Tie fighter etc. have no DRM. They used to make a profit without DRM on new products, why not sell them now that they are old and everyone's already played them anyway.
i'm sure we will see all of LA's older games sooner or later. eventually someone in charge of LA will either be greedy enough to re-release their old games, or be enough of a gamer to realize that old games should not be forgotten.
Post edited May 03, 2012 by Fred_DM
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Fred_DM: i'm sure we will see all of LA's older games sooner or later. eventually someone in charge of LA will either be greedy enough to re-release their old games, or be enough of a gamer to realize that old games should not be forgotten.
I think so, too. But it is bizarre, isn't it? So much money available with almost zero effort (well, they'd have to pay the lawyers, I suppose), and they just don't care.

But hey, Lucas, if you don't want my money, I won't give you any. That's cool.
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de_Monteynard: You would think that now that the big guys like EA and SquareEnix have joined the DRM-free revolution, LA would also see the light and realise that people will actually buy more GOGs if they are DRM-free rather than via Steam or other DD.
Probably because it may simply not be true.

Look at the release of Witcher 2. An top expected game, available DRM free on GOG. And yet Steam outsold it by 5-6 times the amount of sales.

And overall, sales numbers are still relatively low on GOG most likely. (compared to a behemoth as Steam at least). Heck, one of the most sold games (fallout) that they gave out for free recently was not owned by ~90% of the people on GOG.

I do think GOG might overshadow Steam in the classics over time. But I wouldn't assume GOG is outselling Steam even on the classics at the moment as an obvious truth. (well, the ones that they share obviously)
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de_Monteynard: You would think that now that the big guys like EA and SquareEnix have joined the DRM-free revolution, LA would also see the light and realise that people will actually buy more GOGs if they are DRM-free rather than via Steam or other DD.
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Pheace: Probably because it may simply not be true.

Look at the release of Witcher 2. An top expected game, available DRM free on GOG. And yet Steam outsold it by 5-6 times the amount of sales.

And overall, sales numbers are still relatively low on GOG most likely. (compared to a behemoth as Steam at least). Heck, one of the most sold games (fallout) that they gave out for free recently was not owned by ~90% of the people on GOG.

I do think GOG might overshadow Steam in the classics over time. But I wouldn't assume GOG is outselling Steam even on the classics at the moment as an obvious truth. (well, the ones that they share obviously)
People simply find steam easier. They launch steam, click a couple times and the game is ready to play. Steam is a clear example of where customers pay for less hassle.

You can't really compare old games sales with new games. The reason many didn't buy Fallout on GOG is because it's such a popular game that most already had a working copy and the extras wasn't worth it to buy it again.
Had the old game been hard to get to work on modern systems or hard to find it would have been a different situation.
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Tarm: You can't really compare old games sales with new games. The reason many didn't buy Fallout on GOG is because it's such a popular game that most already had a working copy and the extras wasn't worth it to buy it again.
Had the old game been hard to get to work on modern systems or hard to find it would have been a different situation.
I agree that it's not a completely fair example but I also don't believe you can in any way definitively say that GOG is outselling Steam on those, because in the end, Steam still has the massive customer base and GOG is still just an up and comer.

Ah and my pointing out of Fallout was not to reason why it might or might not have sold well, it was rather to show that *even* one of the best sold games on GOG has only been sold to only about 10% of it's userbase, which means the bulk of the other games on GOG are sold to an even smaller percentage of it's userbase.

Now granted, overall I wouldn't be shocked that except for a few obvious exceptions like Free games and high profile games a lot of the games on Steam hang around 10% as well (with maybe the more successful ones that aren't free (or Valve) reaching into the 20%'s). It's a bit hard to tell with these numbers.

I'm not saying one way or the other by the way. I don't *know* for a fact if GOG sells more, but I also wouldn't fault a developer for not joining GOG yet based on the assumption that GOG would sell more. Because there's simply no real evidence for that.