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Tantrix: Ah, nope. The movie is just popular because it's utter garbage and obvious distortion of Greek history for self-glorification. I really had to look away at all the historical bullshit plastered on the screen. I wouldn't mind it for a few lulz, but I know people are brain-drained enough to take this as authentical portrayal of history just because it's a blockbuster and throws some cheap color effects.
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orcishgamer: You really think people thought a movie with Pegasus flying around in the background was an authenticate historical movie? A movie that's based on a well known comic book, no less?
Coming from a country which thinks Germany is an US-state? Yeah, I do then.
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Tantrix: Ah, nope. The movie is just popular because it's utter garbage and obvious distortion of Greek history for self-glorification. I really had to look away at all the historical bullshit plastered on the screen. I wouldn't mind it for a few lulz, but I know people are brain-drained enough to take this as authentical portrayal of history just because it's a blockbuster and throws some cheap color effects.
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orcishgamer: You really think people thought a movie with Pegasus flying around in the background was an authenticate historical movie? A movie that's based on a well known comic book, no less?
I don't recall a Pegasus flying in the background of 300 (I only saw the movie once mind you, but I just can't recall a flying Pegasus and it seems like something that would have stuck in my memory).

Either way, a lot of people don't know about the comic book and you assume (wrongly) that everyone got at least a quality high school education.

Many do not and without a solid foundation, the amount of crap that can sift through is sometimes surprising.
Post edited January 04, 2012 by Magnitus
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orcishgamer: You really think people thought a movie with Pegasus flying around in the background was an authenticate historical movie? A movie that's based on a well known comic book, no less?
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Tantrix: Coming from a country which thinks Germany is an US-state? Yeah, I do then.
You're being a bit melodramatic here. The average American can't place things on a map but they do know Germany isn't a US state and they also know 300 isn't historical fiction.
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orcishgamer: You really think people thought a movie with Pegasus flying around in the background was an authenticate historical movie? A movie that's based on a well known comic book, no less?
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Magnitus: I don't recall a Pegasus flying in the background of 300 (I only saw the movie once mind you, but I just can't recall a flying Pegasus and it seems like something that would have stuck in my memory).

Either way, a lot of people don't know about the comic book and you assume (wrongly) that everyone got at least a quality high school education.

Many do not and without a solid foundation, the amount of crap that can sift through is sometimes surprising.
It wasn't all that obvious but there was all kinds of mythical shit going on in that movie.
Post edited January 04, 2012 by orcishgamer
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Tantrix: Coming from a country which thinks Germany is an US-state? Yeah, I do then.
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orcishgamer: You're being a bit melodramatic here. The average American can't place things on a map but they do know Germany isn't a US state and they also know 300 isn't historical fiction.
My sister was for a full year in an US high school in California. She has been frequently asked where Germany is placed on the US map and if Hitler is still alive. And my sister is never talking bullshit.
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Tantrix: My sister was for a full year in an US high school in California. She has been frequently asked where Germany is placed on the US map and if Hitler is still alive. And my sister is never talking bullshit.
....*facepalms and shakes head* I am speechless....

Also Abe Lincoln vampire slayer. Color me curious.

But I agree with Orc high school isn't the place for the.....brightest and greatest so to say.
Post edited January 04, 2012 by MrWilli
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orcishgamer: You're being a bit melodramatic here. The average American can't place things on a map but they do know Germany isn't a US state and they also know 300 isn't historical fiction.
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Tantrix: My sister was for a full year in an US high school in California. She has been frequently asked where Germany is placed on the US map and if Hitler is still alive. And my sister is never talking bullshit.
Okay, you're extrapolating a whole country on what a bunch of high school kids knew? We don't have a BAC here, high school is for fucking around, college is "serious" (or at least used to be), most high school kids are really dumb and judging a whole country on your sister's experience at a single high school in SoCal (which has a wide range of over and underprivileged areas) is rather foolish.

So, I believe your sister, but you're still wrong for stereotyping an entire country based on that one small experience. The US is a really big place, mind-bogglingly big to many Europeans that haven't had the luxury of traveling. You'll find a wide and radically different range of places and people here depending on where you go.
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orcishgamer: So, I believe your sister, but you're still wrong for stereotyping an entire country based on that one small experience. The US is a really big place, mind-bogglingly big to many Europeans that haven't had the luxury of traveling. You'll find a wide and radically different range of places and people here depending on where you go.
My question stays however, would a great part of the US take such history distorting movies seriously?
Because that experience of my sister makes me do...wonder.
Post edited January 04, 2012 by Tantrix
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orcishgamer: So, I believe your sister, but you're still wrong for stereotyping an entire country based on that one small experience. The US is a really big place, mind-bogglingly big to many Europeans that haven't had the luxury of traveling. You'll find a wide and radically different range of places and people here depending on where you go.
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Tantrix: My question stays however, would a great part of the US take such history distorting movies seriously?
Because that experience of my sister makes me do...wonder.
No.

High school is the time for Americans to work on social skills, making friends, etc. College is where (more) serious work/study gets done. So it's not surprising the some high schoolers in one school were ignorant.

As said above, there is a really, really wide range of experiences in America. The type of high school that your sister went to would make a really big difference in the kind of people she was around and the kind of education she got. America doesn't separate types of high schools out like I know other countries do - there aren't really any university-track vs trade-school track high schools - but that doesn't mean all high schools are the same.
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orcishgamer: So, I believe your sister, but you're still wrong for stereotyping an entire country based on that one small experience. The US is a really big place, mind-bogglingly big to many Europeans that haven't had the luxury of traveling. You'll find a wide and radically different range of places and people here depending on where you go.
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Tantrix: My question stays however, would a great part of the US take such history distorting movies seriously?
Because that experience of my sister makes me do...wonder.
I don't even take most true historical movies seriously let alone history distorting movies
There is no way most people in America think 300 is even remotely historically accurate, or even that the movie is trying to pass itself off as historically accurate. Every single country on the planet has its big share of retards and morons...the US is no exception. But the percentage of Americans that would take 300 as a serious representation of history has to be very small.

I do think that most people are stupid, but just not that stupid.
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orcishgamer: So, I believe your sister, but you're still wrong for stereotyping an entire country based on that one small experience. The US is a really big place, mind-bogglingly big to many Europeans that haven't had the luxury of traveling. You'll find a wide and radically different range of places and people here depending on where you go.
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Tantrix: My question stays however, would a great part of the US take such history distorting movies seriously?
Because that experience of my sister makes me do...wonder.
I think most people (personally, I hated it) just liked 300 because they found it fun to watch, not because they agreed it was a factual representation of history.

I AM looking forward to Iron Sky. That doesn't mean I believe it to be some bizarre story of what REALLY happened in the waning days of the Second World War.
Post edited January 04, 2012 by Crassmaster
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CowboyBebop: This movie looks interesting. Speaking of interesting movies, am I the only one here who has watched Bubba Ho-Tep?
I've seen it a couple times. It was very enjoyable. I had heard once or twice of a sequel being made, but I've since forgot to go back and see if it ever was.
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orcishgamer: So, I believe your sister, but you're still wrong for stereotyping an entire country based on that one small experience. The US is a really big place, mind-bogglingly big to many Europeans that haven't had the luxury of traveling. You'll find a wide and radically different range of places and people here depending on where you go.
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Tantrix: My question stays however, would a great part of the US take such history distorting movies seriously?
Because that experience of my sister makes me do...wonder.
I wonder just how many kids exactly in the school asked your sister those questions. Many US school districts do a really bad job of teaching, but many more do a good job. I find it hard to believe that some kind of big majority of students would go up to your sister and ask the same 2 or 3 questions everyone else has asked. What's more like is that it was just a handful of students that are either the dumb asses or jerks making fun of her. I went to a public elementary school in a poor part of a poor state, but even we learned where Germany is before graduating.

Again, most people are idiots/uneducated, but just not to the degree you are thinking.
Post edited January 04, 2012 by da187jimmbones
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orcishgamer: You're being a bit melodramatic here. The average American can't place things on a map but they do know Germany isn't a US state and they also know 300 isn't historical fiction.
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Tantrix: My sister was for a full year in an US high school in California. She has been frequently asked where Germany is placed on the US map and if Hitler is still alive. And my sister is never talking bullshit.
you say she doesn't talk bullshit, but yeah I'm going to call complete and utter bullshit on your story anyway. Sure maybe some total moron asked your sister once or twice, but I have a very hard time believing that she was "frequently" asked enough to make it seem like it happened enough to just label it to the whole country. It's absolutely absurd and insulting. If it's true that it happened , then your sister must have been in a school for people with learning disabilities or people who have been in comas during grades k-8

I mean you obviously think Americans are stupid and they don't know much about the rest of the world. but jesus christ you're practically saying we live in a vacuum and as a nation we have about the intelligence of a mentally challenged person or a small child( to which I give you a hearty "fuck you"). I have never in my life met a high school student who wasn't aware that Germany wasn't in the US. I have never seen anybody ( through education, media, real life convos etc) even come close to claiming that Germany was in the US, so how this cluster of students from your sisters school all happened to supposedly receive this misinformation, yeah... I find that hard to believe. It's pretty hard to live past the age of 12 and not eventually learn that Germany is not located in the US. I don't know when exactly I learned Germany wasn't in the US but I know I wasn't older than 7. You don't even have to go to school or know how to read to pick that fact up by the time you're the age of a high school student.. You pick it up everywhere. You just have to turn on the Tv or watch movies. Or hear about WWII. Or run into a person who is German( I know this sounds crazy and all, but we have quite a few people with German ancestry here and thanks to wacky stuff like talking to and interacting each other, even an unschooled person can understand that the German person is from a different country).
This whole conversation reminds me of when Justin Beiber supposedly didn't know what "german" meant, even though it was a misunderstanding. But then people were all alike "yup yup most americans don't even know what Germany is" and it all was a colossal pile of stupidity
Post edited January 05, 2012 by CaptainGyro
Well, duh....
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Kezardin: Well, duh....
Where is France? In Paris?
I don't find that so strange - "France" and "Paris" are mere words, usually said together in a context; who's to know which is the country?

On the other hand, for those who're more familiar with those two words, it's laughable if someone mixes them up: When I see/hear Paris I recall sitting at a cafe or something not far from Notre Dame, being waited on by the only friendly waitress in the entire city (she was american, there for a year), and when I hear "France" I might think back on the house we rented in Normadie, not far from the beach (loved that place); which means that I'd be comparing a city, complete with traffic noise, bicycles, huge monuments of little apparent use etc with a host of different sceneries, small villages, rivers, castles etc - two very different things, in other words, making the mix up kind of absurd.

We all know different things to different degrees. I have no idea why you'd ask anyone from Belize if they'd eaten chicken, and I'd have to take a wild guess if I were to place it on a map. Of course, I know there are no polar bears walking the streets in Sweden - they walk (some of) the streets in Norway, though. Thing is, you'd have to go to Svalbard (quite some way off the coast, way up north) to meet these polar bears - I wouldn't be surprised if less than ten thousand norwegians have ever actually seen a live polar bear, so it's quite misleading..