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DukeNukemForever: And yes, most of the antifa people dont' believe in nationals, political motivations are more important.
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Tantrix: All they believe is in Socialism, like the National-socialists did. They are totalitarian and anti-democratic and want to destroy "the capitalistic system", which is ironic since they are getting financated by social welfare.
Ahm, allright... I believe you forgot the aliens. Sorry for being sarcastic, but the topic is a little bit more complicated than this.
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DukeNukemForever: Ahm, allright... I believe you forgot the aliens. Sorry for being sarcastic, but the topic is a little bit more complicated than this.
Well, enlighten me then.
Post edited November 13, 2011 by Tantrix
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DukeNukemForever: Ahm, allright... I believe you forgot the aliens. Sorry for being sarcastic, but the topic is a little bit more complicated than this.
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Tantrix: Well, enlighten me then.
For the beginning you maybe want to check that in the case of the antifa it's a group with many different subgroups. Some of the groups are very peaceful, others unfortunately more radical. Also the antifa is only interested in fascism, the critics on the global financial system is attac. Also that "they" (who, btw?) all only get money from welfare - sorry, but that kind of generalisation really annoys me. I only missed that you wrote something about greenpeace, this "nature lovin hippies", then you did really mixed all stereotypes together. Same goes btw to "the german" you wrote before. I don't know where your hate comes from, but to put everything in one big pot and put a label on it isn't very helpful and the solution to anything.
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Tantrix: Especially the Germans.
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SLP2000: Well, that's awkward in this case, but that's it, I'm not even sure if those ppl consider themselves as Germans.

What's really unacceptable for me personally, it's that some of the Poles consider such celebration as something inappropriate.
Maybe they don't consider the celebration of the holiday as inappropriate just the group(s) who celebrate it as inappropriate. ONR and Mlodziez Wielkopolska aren't exactly the friendliest groups around...
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JudasIscariot: Maybe they don't consider the celebration of the holiday as inappropriate just the group(s) who celebrate it as inappropriate. ONR and Mlodziez Wielkopolska aren't exactly the friendliest groups around...
Do they have any rights to forbid ONR and Mlodziez Wszechpolska to celebrate it? Who gave it to them?
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JudasIscariot: Maybe they don't consider the celebration of the holiday as inappropriate just the group(s) who celebrate it as inappropriate. ONR and Mlodziez Wielkopolska aren't exactly the friendliest groups around...
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SLP2000: Do they have any rights to forbid ONR and Mlodziez Wszechpolska to celebrate it? Who gave it to them?
No they don't.

You do have to admit that ONR and MW aren't the most peaceful organizations, though. Add ANTIFA to the mix and you'll have this kind of thing happen every time. I still blame HGW and her bureaucrats for not properly handling this event. They should have defined a specific spot for the ANTIFA to protest peacefully instead of permitting them to block a legal march.
This coming decade will be as turbulent as the 1930s, so get ready. The economic recovery is a big LIE. The world is sinking into another Great Depression.
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DukeNukemForever: I don't know where your hate comes from, but to put everything in one big pot and put a label on it isn't very helpful and the solution to anything.
Hatred? Me? Then explain me this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-PeRCrIuWM
1,42. There one of those peace loving Antifas was making a Hitler Gruß and said "Ausschwitz Heil."

This is my view on this.
I am an opinion loving fella with disperity and all, but if a political groupment, especially a German one, is disrupting other nations' sovereignty for ideological reasons, this is a no-go area for me. I learned to much from German Empire, Weimar, 3rd Reich and later on GDR and RAF to tollerate that.

Maybe you should start thinking critically and not shrug other views off as "hatred". Maybe start reading a book and learn about those groups you try to defend.

I was just apologizing the Polish broes here for those retards. Heck, GoG and the Witcher series are Polish.
Post edited November 13, 2011 by Tantrix
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DukeNukemForever: I don't know where your hate comes from, but to put everything in one big pot and put a label on it isn't very helpful and the solution to anything.
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Tantrix: Hatred? Me? Then explain me this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-PeRCrIuWM
1,42. There one of those peace loving Antifas was making a Hitler Gruß and said "Ausschwitz Heil."

I am only stating the obvious. I am an opinion loving fella with disperity and all, but if an anti-democratic movement, especially a German one, is disrupting other nation's sovereignty for ideological reasons, this is a no-go for me. I learned to much from Weimar, 3rd Reich and RAF to tollerate that.
Maybe you should start thinking critically and not shrug other views off as "hatred". Maybe start reading a book and learn about those groups you try to defend.

Also, where did you get that greenpeace bit? I only spoke about the Antifa.
Watched the movie and you can hardly hear something about Auschwitz (not seeing from whom btw) and a moments later one guy (not shown it's german, antifa or something else) raising his hand a little bit, but not as Hitlergruß, more as showing the direction. I really heard that part with headphones for about 9 times, and it's really hard understand what he exactly said. The first word can maybe be Auschwitz, but the second is not a Heil for me, sorry. And that's really a proof for you the whole Antifa as organisation and all it's subgroups (not all are german btw) are bad? You really put them on the same level as the RAF, Weimar and 3rd Reich? Sorry, it's late and I'm tired, but what you did is full of allegations, stereotypes and prejudices, but no facts! That's why I also put greenpeace on the list, because you mixed all prejudices which have closed conservatives against everything what looks different, mixed with full of hate. And yes, you sound awfuly hateful to me.

Edit: Btw, I really love how you post no facts but tell other to read a book to get informations. Personally I know that there are also some black sheeps in the antifa, but you don't understand the whole organisation structure of the antifa.There is no really organisation, that's why there are so many different subgroups - very peaceful but also some more radical. If you don't understand this I'm sorry for you.
Post edited November 13, 2011 by DukeNukemForever
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DukeNukemForever: That's why I also put greenpeace on the list, because you mixed all prejudices which have closed conservatives against everything what looks different, mixed with full of hate. And yes, you sound awfuly hateful to me.
Seeing how you are enraged about it, you are the one who sounds hateful.
And no, I am not a conservative or a rightwing and I don't want to identify myself with them or the left.. Maybe you should stop working with stereotypes.

Also, just to say again, I am appalled what happened there and I want to say sorry to the Poles here because they come from Germany.
And your damn excuses won't change a damn thing. It happened. Deal with it.

BTW, the reason I don't post facts is because it's to much time consuming for me. I'd have to quote the literature and shit. It's not worth it because of an opinion gap about a poltical gorupment.
Post edited November 13, 2011 by Tantrix
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DukeNukemForever: That's why I also put greenpeace on the list, because you mixed all prejudices which have closed conservatives against everything what looks different, mixed with full of hate. And yes, you sound awfuly hateful to me.
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Tantrix: Now you sound hateful. And no, I am not a conservative and I don't want to identify myself with them or the left.. Maybe you should stop working with stereotypes.
It's late and I'm tired. Everything is explained. So good night.
I feel really sorry for all of our Polish bros

I do hope that this will be resolved one way or another in the future
Post edited November 19, 2011 by Roman5
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Roman5: I feel really sorry for all of out Polish bros

I do hope that this will be resolved one way or another in the future
One way to solve it would be permanent debt slavery for those who participated in the various acts of destruction and violence. Last I read about this topic, the city of Warsaw was saying that the total damage was around 2 million PLN. Make those who did anything destructive work off that debt collectively and that should teach them.