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Posted January 16, 2014
The conclusive standalone expansion to SpellForce 2.

SpellForce 2: Demons of the Past, the conclusive standalone expansion offering 25+ hours of RPG/RTS gameplay, is available 10% off on GOG.com. That's only $17.99 for the first week.

Zazhut is free, and his wrath now descends upon Eo. The Shaikan are hopelessly outnumbered – but you, an Elder of the Shaikan, are not willing to give up hope. Joined by companions old and new, you head out towards the Realm of the Gods, for only they seem able to oppose Zazhut's power. However, the Gods play a game of their own, and don't seem to be inclined to help you... The fate of Eo now rests within your hands; face the demons of the past, collect information about Zazhut and banish evil from this world, once and for all. Much has changed in time... are your foes as dangerous and your friends as faithful as they used to be?

SpellForce 2: Demons of the Past is the epic new chapter of SpellForce, the unique blend of RPG and RTS. Experience this worthy conclusion of all previous games in the SpellForce-series. Check out the new single player campaign with 25+ hours of gameplay, in which nearly all races are playable. With nearly a hundred quest to complete, varied single- and multi-player game modes, and a map editor, this standalone expansion will provide you with the perfect conclusive adventure in the SpellForce 2 universe.

Visit the fantastic lands, and play through the final epic campaigns in SpellForce 2: Demons of the Past, for only $17.99 on GOG.com. The 10% off release discount offer will last until Thursday, January 23, at 10:59AM GMT.
Posted January 16, 2014
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ThomNG: There may be an option to create a non-Steam version of Faith in Destiny, it is now more if GOG wants to release it and if they will accept the pricing we want to have for Faith in Destiny :) but this topic is not fully closed - there are discussions behind the scenes and I am quite positive that it will come on GOG in future ;)
Good to know, I hope that a complete edition can be released.
Posted January 16, 2014
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Fenixp: Personally, I have very mixed opinion on it. As I said earlier in the thread, I really, really want to like it, but just can't. The first game is... What prevents me from really playing it is a lot of design flaws, crowned by the fact that upon loading a saved game, explored map bits conceal themselves again, so if you don't remember where did you find what, you're screwed. You only get the current POV from stuff you own at the time of loading - from characters/buildings, that is. Everything else you have to re-explore. Hated that.

Second game actually solves vast majority of similar problems that I've had with the original. That's only the technical side of the thing.

Gameplay is ... If any of those games came out as a pure RPG or a pure RTS, they would never be rated above average - you get a mediocre RPG and a mediocre RTS. If you are itching for some old-school RPGing and RTSing with everything good and bad associated with it, you'll get those in spades in these games - but even then, play an old-school RPG or an old-school RTS dedicated to the genre and it will be more entertaining.

The uniqueness of these games comes from connecting these two genres - and that's also my biggest issue with it. While it connects RTS and RPG, both RTS and RPG bits are clearly separated in gamepay - you have RPG segments, where you talk to NPCs, do quests and that kind of stuff, and then you have RTS bits, where you build up a base, construct units and the RPG aspect gets largely pushed into background (altho not completely). The game doesn't seemlessly interjoin the genres - it just kind of connects them in a functional fashion.

When it comes to story, well... You're mostly saving people in a fantasy setting
Not OP, but I was wondering- it's an RPG so I am guessing it has character building, but does that happen for a MC or multiple characters? I'd like to play a RTS with character building for a team or something, and this game seems story-oriented, so that's a plus. Thanks in adv.
Posted January 16, 2014
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cmdr_flashheart: Not OP, but I was wondering- it's an RPG so I am guessing it has character building, but does that happen for a MC or multiple characters? I'd like to play a RTS with character building for a team or something, and this game seems story-oriented, so that's a plus. Thanks in adv.
IIRC you do get pernament companions who will level-up with you, but the RTS-styled units do not have any character development whatsoever.
Posted January 16, 2014
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JMich: unlike this one
Nice find. First heard of it in the near thread minutes ago. Anyone knows how much it will be ?


Edit : I like my hexes alright.
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Fenixp: I really, really want to like it, but just can't.
I think I relate. I like to play it but I never got into enough to finish any of those.
Post edited January 16, 2014 by Potzato
Posted January 16, 2014
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phaolo: Hey, do you think it's worth playing both SF games, or should I choose only the second (full)?
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Niggles: Is this series any good?.
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Zurvan7: Would like to know it as well? Does it have a good story or is it gameplay only?
In my opinion, the first SpellForce game is pretty bad. It's full of flaws that make it an unnecessarily arduous game to play. These are the kinds of flaws that hit you in the face every five seconds: interface, camera, mechanics. Happily, the second game, which I like a lot, does away with these for the most part. The story is nothing to write home about as far as I'm concerned, so feel free to skip the first game altogether.

The mechanics are roughly similar to Warcraft III, with armies led by a handful of powerful hero units. The tone is very different though (WCIII is very serious, whereas SF2 comes across as self-consciously camp), and there are quests and things that make it more RPG-ish than Warcraft, but it's still a very far cry from isometric RPG's.
Posted January 16, 2014
Spellforce 2 allows you to recruit a few heroes along, with their respective personal quests. You can level the heroes., but the troops will level automatically with you. Heroes will lag 6 levels behind you at the endgame, while troops will be 10 levels below your main character.

The original Spellforce is a bit more tactical due to the rune system, Spellforce 2 is easier to play due to the fact that the RPG part is better implemented. I would not compare it with Warcraft 3, but with the Warlords Battlecry series.
Posted January 16, 2014
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Nobake: Wishlisting so I don't forget about it. Need to try the other Spellforce games I have before I purchase this one.
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Impaler26: Same here. I also have the other Spellforce games and i will buy this one when i have finished them all. :)
Thirded. So many games. But glad to see this here, thanks for bringing it to GOG!
Post edited January 16, 2014 by IAmSinistar
Posted January 16, 2014
I am totally confused. I have the Spellforce Universe which is evidently SF 1 & 2 with expansions but then I see this which is seemingly an entirely different SP 2 and has a seven year release date difference.

Of course the Universe collection is so flawed I'm bound to get them all here eventually, but for the sake of what little is left of my sanity I'd like a little clarification.

Oh...good morning everyone. :D
Posted January 16, 2014
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tinyE: I am totally confused. I have the Spellforce Universe which is evidently SF 1 & 2 with expansions but then I see this which is seemingly an entirely different SP 2 and has a seven year release date difference.

Of course the Universe collection is so flawed I'm bound to get them all here eventually, but for the sake of what little is left of my sanity I'd like a little clarification.

Oh...good morning everyone. :D
The SpellForce Universe Edition had SpellForce 1 Platinum Edition (SpellForce 1 The Order of Dawn and its 2 addons) and SpellForce 2 Gold Edition (SpellForce 2 Shadow Wars and its first addon Dragon Storm) included.

To complete the whole SpellForce franchise, the second addon (Faith in Destiny) and third addon (Demons of the Past) of SpellForce 2 are missing in your selection.

Hope everything is clear now.

Cheers
Your Nordic Games Team

PS: Good morning to you too (although it is afternoon here in Austria ;) )
Post edited January 16, 2014 by ThomNG
Posted January 16, 2014
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tinyE: I am totally confused. I have the Spellforce Universe which is evidently SF 1 & 2 with expansions but then I see this which is seemingly an entirely different SP 2 and has a seven year release date difference.

Of course the Universe collection is so flawed I'm bound to get them all here eventually, but for the sake of what little is left of my sanity I'd like a little clarification.

Oh...good morning everyone. :D
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ThomNG: The SpellForce Universe Edition had SpellForce 1 Platinum Edition (SpellForce 1 The Order of Dawn and its 2 addons) and SpellForce 2 Gold Edition (SpellForce 2 Shadow Wars and its first addon Dragon Storm) included.

To complete the whole SpellForce franchise, the second addon (Faith in Destiny) and third addon (Demons of the Past) of SpellForce 2 are missing in your selection.

Hope everything is fine now.

Cheers
Your Nordic Games Team
Thank you. :D
Like I said the Universe Rom was evidently put together with someone who has severe ADD so I'm going to get them here eventually even though #2 is a little heavy on my OS. Think I'll pick up #1 just for shits and giggles today since my BD is Sunday. :D

At least now I know exactly what I'm looking at. Thank you!
Posted January 16, 2014
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tinyE: I am totally confused. I have the Spellforce Universe which is evidently SF 1 & 2 with expansions but then I see this which is seemingly an entirely different SP 2 and has a seven year release date difference.

Of course the Universe collection is so flawed I'm bound to get them all here eventually, but for the sake of what little is left of my sanity I'd like a little clarification.

Oh...good morning everyone. :D
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ThomNG: The SpellForce Universe Edition had SpellForce 1 Platinum Edition (SpellForce 1 The Order of Dawn and its 2 addons) and SpellForce 2 Gold Edition (SpellForce 2 Shadow Wars and its first addon Dragon Storm) included.

To complete the whole SpellForce franchise, the second addon (Faith in Destiny) and third addon (Demons of the Past) of SpellForce 2 are missing in your selection.

Hope everything is clear now.

Cheers
Your Nordic Games Team

PS: Good morning to you too (although it is afternoon here in Austria ;) )
What the possibility of Faith in Destiny and his DLCs receiving a DRM-free release too?
Posted January 16, 2014
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gandalf.nho: What the possibility of Faith in Destiny and his DLCs receiving a DRM-free release too?
Just check out my post on that topic on page 1 of this discussion thread:

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/release_spellforce_2_demons_of_the_past/post16

Greetings
Post edited January 16, 2014 by ThomNG
Posted January 16, 2014
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gandalf.nho: What the possibility of Faith in Destiny and his DLCs receiving a DRM-free release too?
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ThomNG: There may be an option to create a non-Steam version of Faith in Destiny, it is now more if GOG wants to release it and if they will accept the pricing we want to have for Faith in Destiny :) but this topic is not fully closed - there are discussions behind the scenes and I am quite positive that it will come on GOG in future ;)
edit: Damn you, ninja ThomNG
Post edited January 16, 2014 by Fenixp
Posted January 16, 2014
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gandalf.nho: What the possibility of Faith in Destiny and his DLCs receiving a DRM-free release too?
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ThomNG: Just check out my post on that topic on page 1 of this discussion thread:

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/release_spellforce_2_demons_of_the_past/post16

Greetings
Nice, hope to see FiD here in the future too
Posted January 16, 2014
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AlKim: In my opinion, the first SpellForce game is pretty bad. It's full of flaws that make it an unnecessarily arduous game to play. These are the kinds of flaws that hit you in the face every five seconds: interface, camera, mechanics. Happily, the second game, which I like a lot, does away with these for the most part. The story is nothing to write home about as far as I'm concerned, so feel free to skip the first game altogether.[..]
Thank you for the info AlKim. :)
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