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http://kotaku.com/5620280/thq-buying-used-games-is-cheating
Of course, if they made a decent game once in a while, they wouldn't be losing money in the first place.
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predcon: http://kotaku.com/5620280/thq-buying-used-games-is-cheating
Of course, if they made a decent game once in a while, they wouldn't be losing money in the first place.

I do not support this position, but I would ask for confirmation of rumours I've heard. Apparently reselling a game is forbidden by most EULAs, but has never been challenged. Then again, you're not actually allowed to lend a book to someone. Anyone got the definitive legal position?
Hey it's a good thing. THQ are no releasing Space Marine and Darksiders on PC. Before they didn't care about the format exemplified with their support of Saints Row 2 which was "there will be no PC support for Saints Row 2"
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wpegg: I do not support this position, but I would ask for confirmation of rumours I've heard. Apparently reselling a game is forbidden by most EULAs, but has never been challenged. Then again, you're not actually allowed to lend a book to someone. Anyone got the definitive legal position?

There is none, really. It would only ever come up in court if a company tried to sue a customer for breach of contract and they will never do that for all manner of reasons, a top one being they would probably lose.
EULAs are not laws, as much as gaming companies wish they were.
As for used games, I always buy my games new to send money to the developers and investors, but I still believe used games are a protected right under the U.S. first-sale doctrine and similar laws in other countries. I might not agree with what Gamestop does, but I would fight for their right to do it.
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Delixe: Hey it's a good thing. THQ are no releasing Space Marine and Darksiders on PC.

Wasn't Darksider PC version supposed to be released this autumn ? I stopped caring about it when I hear it was going to use Steamwork so maybe it was canceled since...
I very much agree with THQ and Penny Arcade on this one.
Penny Arcade comic
When you buy a game used, THQ makes as much money from you as if you pirated it. They have every right to complain about it and monetize the used game market. Right now it's stores like GameStop making money hand over fist by buying a game off customers for $5 and selling it $5 below new game retail price. If there's a used game right next to a new one for a cheaper price, what person in their right mind would buy the more expensive one, since used games simply don't lose value?
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: When you buy a game used, THQ makes as much money from you as if you pirated it. They have every right to complain about it and monetize the used game market. Right now it's stores like GameStop making money hand over fist by buying a game off customers for $5 and selling it $5 below new game retail price. If there's a used game right next to a new one for a cheaper price, what person in their right mind would buy the more expensive one, since used games simply don't lose value?

Agreeing with them is one thing, I agree with them... taking steps to stop resale though I cannot agree with. It is something you have to accept, and something you can educate consumers about.
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: snippity

Blame the consumers.
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Gersen: Wasn't Darksider PC version supposed to be released this autumn ? I stopped caring about it when I hear it was going to use Steamwork so maybe it was canceled since...

It's available for pre-order on Steam. Don't like Steamworks? Be thankful the game was never coming out on the PC originally.
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: snippity
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Rohan15: Blame the consumers.

If you worked in retail, you'd know that most of the time it is the customer's fault.
Anyway, in this case, these are GameSpot's customers, not THQ's.
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Gersen: Wasn't Darksider PC version supposed to be released this autumn ? I stopped caring about it when I hear it was going to use Steamwork so maybe it was canceled since...
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Delixe: It's available for pre-order on Steam. Don't like Steamworks? Be thankful the game was never coming out on the PC originally.

Is it Steamworks confirmed? Amazon has a preorder as well.
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StingingVelvet: Agreeing with them is one thing, I agree with them... taking steps to stop resale though I cannot agree with. It is something you have to accept, and something you can educate consumers about.

They aren't stopping resale, they're making money off of it. You can't educate customers, because most don't care about the company they're buying from and will simply view it as greed on the part of the company, while it's simply a company desiring to make money from the games it sells.
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StingingVelvet: Is it Steamworks confirmed? Amazon has a preorder as well.

Yes Steamworks confirmed.
No other manufacturer/product developer expects to make money off the sale of their used items except the gaming industry. Car manufacturers make nothing off the sale of used cars. Same with clothing, same with any other product I can think of. But somehow the gaming industry thinks they should be an exception. Why is that? If they want to make money off the used market by offering something for a fee that new game buyers get for free (like the Stone Prisoner DLC in Dragon Age), I have no issue with that. But I have zero sympathy for the whining about used game sales being 'cheating' or being the same as piracy. Give me a break.

I am always amazed to see the weird and twisted world in which the some members of the industry seem to live in.
Yes they are not making money from used games.... BUT WHY SHOULD THEY!
Where does that strange sense of entitlement comes from, that's pretty ridiculous, especially as it's doesn't exists in others industries.
Yes I know the whole : but used CD or used car are not in the same condition as new one while for games the used one is a prefect copy of the new one.... but that's just silly.
I haven't bought that much used games but all those I bought weren't "as good as new", they had some scratch on the CD/DVD, the manual had some slightly torn pages, the box had some marks, etc... exactly like when you buy used CD or used Video DVD.
The only time it could be true would be for digital games... but DRM prevent resale so it's a moot point.
I have the feeling they are so against used sales only because, thanks to DRM, there is actually something they can do against it and they are just trying to shove the idea through customer (or potential customer) throat.
What I wonder is also what is going to be their next pet peeve... once they manage to eradicate second sales what are they going to whine against ? Against the fact that it's unfair that you can buy a game once and play it as long as you want without having to re-buy it ?
Actually that's what they are already starting to think about with all this "subscription" and "let's sell an incomplete game and ask peoples to pay again to have the rest" theories we hear recently.