I should have thought it was obvious, but let me explain: what's the difference between, say, Legend of Grimrock on GOG and on Steam? Steam version has DRM and achievements, GOG's version is DRM free. But once you launch the game, they're exactly the same games. 15 hours of first-rate entertainment in which DRM is incredibly irrelevant. At that moment, the products are identical.

Cats and dogs are never identical. Neutered cats and non-neutered cats have some differences in behaviour, you might disagree with the procedure for various philosophical/humane reasons or you might claim that living with a non-neutered tomcat is hell on Earth, and that's all fine, but at the end of the day, the cat you're stroking in your lap and which is your big personal friend is still most certainly a cat.

Only when GOG releases it's version of DRM-free pizza(calzone would also suffice) can we get around to asking for DRM-free acounts with which to eat said pizza.

Nope. Steam does not have installation limits, that would run contrary to the idea the whole service is based on.

The only games with limited installation on Steam are those with other additional DRM than Steamworks – like BioShock's SecuRom, unless they've patched that stupidity out already.

Fun fact:
-Ubi (EA/whatever) decides to use always online DRM: "Fuck them motherfuckers, how dare they?"
-Blizzard does it: "it's fine, Blizzard is a good company, I am fine with it."
Nice, eh?

Hence the term 'apologists'.

Actually, StingingVelvet said it better.

You failt to understand Steam is also a service. Simple, fast searching for online games, easy online gaming with friends, cloud for storing save games etc.

If you see Steam only as DRM, then it's your problem.

Better extras? You can't loose your game,because GOG is not Valve and have a normal ToS?

Actually for some users BioShock 2 don't even work without a crack,same as Anno 2070 & Driver:San Francisko :D

Maybe so, yet it still doesn't change the fact one shouldn't be overly surprised of anti-neutering sentiments on a site whose one key factors is being against neutering.

And frankly, your analogy is still not really any different from the cat & dog analogy. After all, they are both _pets_ that can bring you joy, and many people have both types of pets.

I would still argue that the games are not "exactly the same" whether it e.g. requires constant online connection or not. For some the difference may not matter, for others yes.

Keeveek and spinefarm, accept my sincere congratulations for spectacularly missing the point.

Funny how he wasn't even trying to flaunt Steam over GOG in this case....he was merely trying to make an example for a separate argument.

Oh, ok. I just don't like comparisons between gog and steam on a basis GOG - drm-free , steam - drm infested.

Because it's more than that. And there is a reason gazillions of people demand steam keys for drm free games in indie bundles, etc.

The same things go with diablo 3.

Always online is a DRM, but also, it gives you online functionality that offline games don't have. If you don't like it, don't buy it, but stop treating this ONLY as a problem.

If one doesn't care about DRM, then steam is often a better option. As for people who like online functionality in singleplayer games.

And the point is? You don't care about extras? You don't care if Valve block your account for a stupid issue? You don't care that Steam collects pretty big amount of personal information?
Share you point "Oh great one"

p.s. The moment Valve or EA or Blizzard show that they care about gamers and not only profit...less people will hate them

The point is he wasn't even trying to compare the two services....he was using it to argue a point with another user about something entirely different than steam vs GOG debate.

Steam is more social there is no argue in that...but it is more intrusive.
I use it mainly for chat & playing FM2012 (hate Sega for this one...) ...

GOG have a lot to do to become a concurent service to Steam,but that doesn't involve adding a client or making 75% sales.

Fenixp is correct, and I am ashamed.

However, I have a very nice goldfish.