Skunk: We agree, more or less, that we like games. Some people like talking about games more than playing them, but I think that still counts to some degree.

The smarter individuals among us also agree that discussing politics and religion are generally bad ideas. I'm not sure we can all agree that such subject matter is also not at all fun. I've never had fun in political or religious debates, anyway. I have my views, you have yours. I don't recall ever being able to influence somebody else's views in the past, so I don't see all that much point in trying. Some people must take some sort of pleasure in it, though, or else they wouldn't waste so much time here doing so!

All I can say is that cigarettes will kill you, weed should be legal, I have a phobia of being around homophobes, the left exists to fight the right, the right exists to fight the left, both sides exist to fight amongst each other, I have no love for religion, there are too many people in the world, most of them are dumb as hell, the ones with all the power have a way of making those morons look sharp, I can't claim to know anything about the opposite sex outside of what my hormones tell me, and we're all a bunch of greasy monkeys that will be forgotten once our mechanical successors wipe us out with a death ray and build a great citadel from our bones.

It is at that point where we, as a people, will be at our most valuable, as human bones will be a satisfyingly crunchy and non-renewable resource. Robots don't steal, of course. Especially not from the great bone citadel. Well, maybe just one won't hurt...

Licurg: Don't give me any ideas :P Still, I would prefer if we kept political issues off the forums. Such things tend to degenerate very fast, and it would be a shame if that happened on GOG.

orcishgamer: I've always wondered how the Republicans will feel in 20-30 years when it's extremely clear that they came down on the "wrong side of history" in the whole gay marriage thing. It's pretty clear that in 20-30 we'll look back at the opposers as bigots, about like we do for people who made excuses for Jim Crowe-ism. Sure, there will always be people against it, just as there are people still for Jim Crowe-ism now, but the sympathizers will be on the outside and merely tolerated so long as their beliefs remain in the realm of free speech.

I know some people are prickling right now, but seriously, there's ideas from only 100 years ago that one can imagine a hillbilly holding today. This one is no different and the controversy is simply growing pains a portion of the population always seems to have admitting to themselves, "I was wrong."

Seriously, sometimes I think the best life skill I ever picked up was learning how to admit that to myself and be okay with it. I know I seem like an intractable, opinionated prick, but I assure you if you'd met me 20 years ago you'd have found someone almost so unlike me you'd have laughed seeing how I am today.

Telika: Actually, I don't have the impression that things degenerate that fast, on gog.

Telika: Do we agree about the liberty of cults ? There is a strong trend of islamophobia (partly as a reaction to islamism) that makes me doubt it. Many people consider christianism as inherently superior to islam, and lately, Switzerland has voted against the right to build mosquees (while christian churches can still be built).

Elmofongo: Marcus Bachmann is going to look even worse then 20-30 years :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCu67Dw05wc

MonstaMunch: There is a difference between cults and religions. The examples you gave are religions.

orcishgamer: Yes, religions are the ones you personally like, cults are the ones you don't. See? Easy:)

MonstaMunch: There is a difference between cults and religions. The examples you gave are religions.

Telika: 5) Homosexuality.

Now, this, just like other gender issues, is a matter in mutation. I'd say that, on this forum (and most forum I've seen), homophobia is accepted as not cool. But, there are still some vocal homophobes who feel more at ease, more backed up by society, than, say, racists would. And homosexual marriage, and homosexual adoption, are being currently discussed. These discussion will certainly look as stupid in 30 years as the old discussions about black people in public transports and in school, or about women's vote. But we're not there yet. However, it still seems that there is already a dominant tendency to accept homosexuality. We're still at the "different strokes"/"passenger 57" level (when main characters are homosexual, it's a "thing", even if we are starting to see -with Torchwood for instance- the first fictions that are not about the sexual orientation of the hero. We're still not colourblind, when it comes to this. But I'd say we're on the way. Few politicians, even right-winged, are openly homophobic. And when they ask to maintain restrictions of rights for homosexuals, they generally do the effort of trying to not look directly homophobic. It's an evolution.

Skunk: /snip

jefequeso: Just try making a thread about piracy and see what happens.

MonstaMunch: There is a difference between cults and religions. The examples you gave are religions.