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Posted December 09, 2011
I have to say, while I disapprove of the method of firing off demands for money based on IP, CDP haven't been two faced. They even said they would be doing this.
Posted December 09, 2011
Yeah, I'm going need a story about this on a legitimate site, not a blog with a pro-piracy stance. Sorry.
Posted December 09, 2011
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PenutBrittle: Yeah, I'm going need a story about this on a legitimate site, not a blog with a pro-piracy stance. Sorry.
This is key. Look at the source of information. It's like taking the word of a KKK website about Obama's Presidency.

If a real news site reports on CDP harassing innocent people then I will pay attention and possibly speak out or boycott, but this "article" is completely unreliable.
Posted December 09, 2011
Any German GOGers that can confirm the story?
Posted December 09, 2011
Making a product DRM free doesn't mean it's okay to pirate it. The DRM free is just less hassle to the legitime users.
Posted December 09, 2011
Sorry cheeze but you point if very flawed. And quite childish to make such statements against GoG.
Posted December 09, 2011
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PenutBrittle: Yeah, I'm going need a story about this on a legitimate site, not a blog with a pro-piracy stance. Sorry.
Agreed. I mean, just look at the blog name. Of course there bound to be some bias.
Posted December 09, 2011
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StingingVelvet: This is key. Look at the source of information. It's like taking the word of a KKK website about Obama's Presidency.

If a real news site reports on CDP harassing innocent people then I will pay attention and possibly speak out or boycott, but this "article" is completely unreliable.
I kind of want to read their archive and take a shot every time they call a company a bunch of "copyright trolls" except I would probably die.

One of their articles complains that "The Pirate Bay Inc." is a legitimate company that is put at a disadvantage by being removed from evil Google's autocomplete results. Is this crazy opposite world?

EDIT: I just scrolled down to the comments section. Oh lordy.
Post edited December 09, 2011 by PenutBrittle
Posted December 09, 2011
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TheCheese33: http://torrentfreak.com/drm-free-witcher-2-cashes-in-on-bittorrent-pirates-111207/
I'm insulted and ashamed. To think that I once respected this organization. "Oh, we're cool with piracy! We think DRM-free is the solution to everything!" Of course DRM-free was a solution to you people; you blackmail them to pay heavy fines or send them to court. Some of these people never even downloaded your game, yet you still come after them.

I'm done buying games from you. I'm done recommending you to friends. Hell, I will make sure to write about your site. See, I'm working at this decent-sized site now, and I'll be sure to let all our readers know that your business should be avoided at all costs.

This is also the last time you'll be seeing me around these parts. I'm downloading all my games to make sure you don't do anything malicious against me or my account, and I'm leaving for good. Adios, you customer-abusing blowhards.
DRM free does not mean "Free to pirate". They're completely within their right to demand settlement for pirating a game. Not that much money - if I was in charge, I'd ask for the retail price of the game, and nothing more.

What site do you work in, by the way? So I don't visit it ever, since that's how you feel about things.
Post edited December 09, 2011 by Foxhack
Posted December 09, 2011
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hedwards: I did miss that. However, it's extremely weak without having any quotes or evidence that it's anything other than conjecture on their part. I'll have to reread the article, but I don't recall there being anything substantive.
Unless they invented a new internet while I wasn't looking there's no reason to make assumptions in that direction. If they made some statement about how they were doing it we could at least evaluate it. As it stands I'll have to assume it's using a very unreliable method as that's how this kind of thing has worked to date pretty much everywhere.

For the record, I recall them saying they were going to do this and I had a problem with it back then too because there's pretty much no way to manage it without kind of being jerks. I was actually kind of hoping they'd change their mind based on the grumbling back then, I guess not.
Post edited December 09, 2011 by orcishgamer
Posted December 09, 2011
I'm under the impression this sort of thing is usually handed off to a legal firm, at which point the development company pretty much washes their hands of the whole issue. While it's happening with the tacit approval of CDP, they're not actually knocking on people's doors and saying "Give us a grand, you robbed us, fool". Even if the article is accurate, the rage is misplaced.
Posted December 09, 2011
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Caffiend: I'm under the impression this sort of thing is usually handed off to a legal firm, at which point the development company pretty much washes their hands of the whole issue. While it's happening with the tacit approval of CDP, they're not actually knocking on people's doors and saying "Give us a grand, you robbed us, fool". Even if the article is accurate, the rage is misplaced.
Said legal firm is doing it on their behalf. Just because you get your pit bull to attack someone you don't like doesn't mean you didn't do it.
Posted December 09, 2011
That's a pretty common and pretty crummy way of going about defending your intellectual property.

On the other hand, I respect that they want to do something about piracy, especially given the numbers they recently released, and I'm having trouble imagining a better solution off the top of my head. There are only so many ways to identify people online, and dragging them into court proceedings to discover responsible parties probably won't cost the hapless address owner less than demanding an out-of-court settlement.

Not saying it's right or that I endorse the practice (neither is true), but I also think they're between a rock and a hard place with regard to piracy.

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Caffiend: I'm under the impression this sort of thing is usually handed off to a legal firm, at which point the development company pretty much washes their hands of the whole issue. While it's happening with the tacit approval of CDP, they're not actually knocking on people's doors and saying "Give us a grand, you robbed us, fool". Even if the article is accurate, the rage is misplaced.
That might actually make it worse. Depending how the firm is paid for their work, they might have an incentive to fire off demands indiscriminately.
Post edited December 09, 2011 by nuuikle
Posted December 09, 2011
Why call GOG two faced liars? This is Gog, not CDP.
OP should put his complain to CDP site not here. And could he just wait what CDP say on the matter before making any assumptions?
Posted December 09, 2011
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olanorig: Why call GOG two faced liars? This is Gog, not CDP.
OP should put his complain to CDP site not here. And could he just wait what CDP say on the matter before making any assumptions?
NO WE MUST BLOW IT ALL OUT OF PROPORTION THIS IS THE INTERNET WHAT ARE YOU A STUPID IDIOT?!?!
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