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Posted December 09, 2011
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nuuikle: I'm having trouble imagining a better solution off the top of my head.
They could fund piracy sites with their advertising budget. Everyone loves that idea.

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Post edited December 09, 2011 by Darling_Jimmy
Posted December 09, 2011
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Caffiend: I'm under the impression this sort of thing is usually handed off to a legal firm, at which point the development company pretty much washes their hands of the whole issue. While it's happening with the tacit approval of CDP, they're not actually knocking on people's doors and saying "Give us a grand, you robbed us, fool". Even if the article is accurate, the rage is misplaced.
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orcishgamer: Said legal firm is doing it on their behalf. Just because you get your pit bull to attack someone you don't like doesn't mean you didn't do it.
Implying a measure of control over the law firm that likely isn't really there. Based on the way this sort of thing has been handled in the past, it's out of their hands once they hire the firm.

Regardless, I'm not defending it. I'm not entirely certain the piracy problem is as big as it's made out to be. Most sources indicate that the bulk of software pirating is done by people that can't afford to purchase the games anyway, so they haven't actually lost a huge amount of sales.
Posted December 09, 2011
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PenutBrittle: EDIT: I just scrolled down to the comments section. Oh lordy.
"Information liberation"... good god.
Posted December 09, 2011
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PenutBrittle: EDIT: I just scrolled down to the comments section. Oh lordy.
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StingingVelvet: "Information liberation"... good god.
Yeah.

I'm an admitted pirate, but those guys really drank from the kool-aid.
Posted December 09, 2011
OP, by doing this you basically take money off GOG's employee family. The article not even included proper evidence to support it's claim. Not well-informed people out there would blindly trust the article. So in my eyes, you're pretty selfish. Remember, what goes around comes around.
Posted December 09, 2011
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Coelocanth: You missed this part, then:

As is often the case, these mass settlement schemes do not exist without collateral damage. Aside from targeting many people who indeed downloaded and shared the game without paying, CD Projekt’s lawyers are also wrongfully accusing people who have never even heard of the game.
After all, an IP-address doesn’t identify a person, and Wi-Fi piggybacking is not unusual. But CD Projekt, who don’t want to bug legitimate consumers with DRM, apparently take this collateral damage for granted.
Well, I didn't miss that part, and I still don't see any actual information in that article to suggest that this concluding statement is correct. It's an anonymous blogger stating his opinion, not a factual article written by a journalist, and the fact it's on torrentfreak doesn't change that.

If they want to keep distributing games DRM free, then tactics like this seem perfectly valid to ensure that those using the game pay for it. What concerns me is that they state very clearly on the "about us" section of the gog website that they themselves don't believe in geo ip tracking, which seems a bit misleading if that's really what they are doing.
Posted December 09, 2011
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StingingVelvet: "Information liberation"... good god.
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Foxhack: Yeah.

I'm an admitted pirate, but those guys really drank from the kool-aid.
"If your peddling media[...]purely for making a profit, as opposed to releasing it for creative/artistic/passionate objectives, then your in the wrong business."

Genuine LOL. So I should just starve, yeah?
Posted December 09, 2011
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DarrkPhoenix: If the information in the article is true then this is very disappointing. These kinds of extortion schemes are unfortunately nothing new, and rely upon the high costs of defending against legal action to coerce payments (basically regardless of one's guilt or innocence it's cheaper to pay the ~$1000 settlement demand than to lawyer up and actually try to defend against any suit that's brought). Naturally, as a result of this, the law firms that specialize in this kind of extortion don't pay much heed to whether or not they're targeting guilty or innocent people and the collateral damage tends to be pretty ugly. I'll wait for more details on this, but if it turns out to be the way that the linked article paints in then at the very least I'll be significantly scaling back the amount of money that I'm sending CDP's way.
I agree 100% with this.
Posted December 09, 2011
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PenutBrittle: "If your peddling media[...]purely for making a profit, as opposed to releasing it for creative/artistic/passionate objectives, then your in the wrong business."

Genuine LOL. So I should just starve, yeah?
I always get my Marxist political advice from people who can't spell you're.
Posted December 09, 2011
Pirates getting busted? How dare they!

Seriously...it's stealing, its that simple! Why should anyone be upset about a thief paying for their crimes?
Posted December 09, 2011
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deathwurm: Pirates getting busted? How dare they!

Seriously...it's stealing, its that simple! Why should anyone be upset about a thief paying for their crimes?
I think it's the whole "guilty until proven innocent" method combined with the suggestion that some might actually be innocent.
Posted December 09, 2011
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deathwurm: Seriously...it's stealing, its that simple! Why should anyone be upset about a thief paying for their crimes?
Infringement =/= theft. Tort =/= crime.
Posted December 09, 2011
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Adzeth: I think it's the whole "guilty until proven innocent" method combined with the suggestion that some might actually be innocent.
What "guilty until proven innocent" method? They are offering out of court settlements, that's all. If people believe there is insufficient legal evidence for them to be found guilty in a court of law, then they have no reason to pay the settlement.

They aren't going around having these people rounded up and thrown in jail without trial.
Posted December 09, 2011
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deathwurm: Pirates getting busted? How dare they!

Seriously...it's stealing, its that simple! Why should anyone be upset about a thief paying for their crimes?
Because if you see something you want, then you're entitled to have it. Anyone who says otherwise is just a paid shill for the multinational media-industrial complex. Simple, isn't it?

/sarcasm
Posted December 09, 2011
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MonstaMunch: What "guilty until proven innocent" method? They are offering out of court settlements, that's all. If people believe there is insufficient legal evidence for them to be found guilty in a court of law, then they have no reason to pay the settlement.

They aren't going around having these people rounded up and thrown in jail without trial.
Legal fees are expensive. Fighting something like this could potentially cost more than $1000
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