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I know exactly how you feel! Angry, right?
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To those established members of this forum that trolled and low-rated the OP for criticising GOG's support - shame on you! You're making this community look just as bad as the Hammer Legion on the Steam forums who rail against anyone who dare criticise Valve.

I can in part understand 445rfrf's frustrations, especially as Dungeon Keeper in DOSBox needs a fair bit of CPU power and this fact is not communicated very well on the store page.

Honestly, if we're looking to encourage people to buy at GOG, people need to stop behaving like fucking religious zealots and start helping.
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445rfrf: <snip>
What are your PC's specs? Can you post the dosbox.conf in the game folder? I don't have the GOG version of Dungeon Keeper, but I'll see what I can do.
Post edited February 18, 2012 by jamyskis
people on this forum are so awesome that anybody absolutely anybody who asks for help about absolutely anything usually gets it, even on topics like (gasp) dating. unfortunately op chose to come off like a troll and sort of deserved to be trolled in return. I know I for one stopped myself from flaming him when I saw this thread.
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michaelleung: It works for the majority, and that's what matters.
Really? What about the 49% to 0% who can't play the game. Should they accept that they blew their money?

And how do you know that it works for the majority? Not everyone has the mind or language skill to send a support ticket.
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There are constructive ways to give feedback to GoG and then there are the no-so-constructive ways and the OP did choose the latter. But still he did have a valid point ie. he bought a product that doesn't work for him. Recently there was another thread here about Gorky17 that don't work for some and after testing it myself I can say that Gorky 17 doesn't work on my PC either. As GoG is getting bigger it is very important that the games they sell actually work even if that can be tricky with older games. I am not going to send a support ticket for my game because I accept it as a loss but that shouldn't happen too many times for good reasons.

With that said there are no reason to attack the OP or troll him or even telling him to commit suicide as another one here did. That is aboslutely disgusting attitude to take to ask another human being to kill himself because he said something about GoG. Let's just say that I wouldn't mind if posters who tell others to kill themselves would get banned from GoG.
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jepsen1977: There are constructive ways to give feedback to GoG and then there are the no-so-constructive ways and the OP did choose the latter. But still he did have a valid point ie. he bought a product that doesn't work for him. Recently there was another thread here about Gorky17 that don't work for some and after testing it myself I can say that Gorky 17 doesn't work on my PC either. As GoG is getting bigger it is very important that the games they sell actually work even if that can be tricky with older games. I am not going to send a support ticket for my game because I accept it as a loss but that shouldn't happen too many times for good reasons.

With that said there are no reason to attack the OP or troll him or even telling him to commit suicide as another one here did. That is aboslutely disgusting attitude to take to ask another human being to kill himself because he said something about GoG. Let's just say that I wouldn't mind if posters who tell others to kill themselves would get banned from GoG.
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445rfrf:
1) DosBox is a memory hog. The problem might simply be that your computer isn't good enough to run said game through DosBox. The best solution would be to just try running it WITHOUT DosBox, and cross your fingers that it will work.

2) Certain game simply don't play well with modern computers. Build engine FPSs are a good example of this. Even when running through DosBox, games like Blood can run into issues. This might be the case with your game. I don't know for sure.

3) There isn't a good alternative to DosBox, short of finding a fan-made windows port (ex. WinRott for Rise of the Triad) or booting up an old machine that can access Dos. Don't blame GOG for using it, because it's probably the single best way to get Dos-based games running on newer systems. But like anything, it'd not perfect.

4) My first two purchases from GOG were Blood and Rise of the Triad, neither of which worked from the start. This is by no means representative of the GOG catalog as a whole, since most titles on here have ended up working fine for me. Have some patience. These are titles that were never meant to work on newer systems, so OF COURSE there are going to be some problems. In some cases, the fact that GOG got the games running at all is a feat in itself.
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jamyskis: Honestly, if we're looking to encourage people to buy at GOG, people need to stop behaving like fucking religious zealots and start helping.
wait...you want people on the internet to act like adults???

MADNESS!!!
Post edited February 18, 2012 by jefequeso
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jefequeso: 3) There isn't a good alternative to DosBox, short of finding a fan-made windows port (ex. WinRott for Rise of the Triad) or booting up an old machine that can access Dos. Don't blame GOG for using it, because it's probably the single best way to get Dos-based games running on newer systems. But like anything, it'd not perfect.
I have Dungeon Keeper Gold on CD, and the CD contains both a DOS version (which is the one I run) and a Windows 95 version. I *think* (but can't be arsed to check) the installer is still 32-bit, but failing that the files can be copied out and it is install-agnostic. I do remember having problems getting the Win95 version to run on WinXP and probably on Win7 as well, but it can be done.
Post edited February 18, 2012 by jamyskis
You could have said it better, OP.

However if you have a product that doesn't work, then fair enough.. complain, although 3 replies in a week isn't too shoddy.

I, myself, am rather surprised GOG have opted for a DosBox shell for this, especially when a windows installer does exist... DosBox might be easier for GOG to use, but it doesn't always produced the better product for us, their customers... I can't help feel this has been.. how do I say it..."just get it out so we can start getting paid for it"... and that surprises me especially for GOG, whose business model, more than anyone else, pretty much relies on their goodwill of their community.

Where a windows installer exists, that should be used first, over a DosBox shell.

Are there any technical reasons why DosBox was used instead of properly fixing the installer apart from ease of use for GOG? Are there many other games with a windows installer that GOG have opted to use DosBox instead for?

These are the questions I'm more interested in getting answers for.
Post edited February 18, 2012 by CaptainKremin
Dunno what is worse, the OP raging for his problem, or some of the replies I'm reading.
There is a project called KeeperFX, which is essentially an engine rewrite of the old Dungeon Keeper. It allows you to run the game natively under Windows, so you don't need to use DOSBox. Since you are having performance problems with DOSBox, maybe this will work better for you. You can find KeeperFX at the URL below:

http://keeper.lubie.org/html/dk_keeperfx.php

You just need to import the original game files from the GOG installation of the game before you can play. KeeperFX also allows you to run the game at higher resolutions than originally possible, which is pretty nice.
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kavazovangel: Dunno what is worse, the OP raging for his problem, or some of the replies I'm reading.
At least the OP's got an excuse.
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spindown: There is a project called KeeperFX...
Ooo, thanks!
Post edited February 18, 2012 by Navagon
I love idiots.
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kavazovangel: Dunno what is worse, the OP raging for his problem, or some of the replies I'm reading.
Well it's a shame you haven't chosen to share your opinion with the rest of us.

Your comment is so vague and without substance that it could pertain to either side of the arguement.

For example, you could be 'surprised' at the OP raging so much, you could be 'surprised' by me sticking up for GOG's CS and having a pop at their methods or you could be surprised that so many have raged against the OP's right to post his complaint in whatever manner he sees fit.

I don't like posts like yours.. it makes you sound as if you have something to say, when in fact you say nothing at at.. maybe that's the secret to high rep?.. being so vague either side of the arguement could give you kudos for agreeing with them.

Every post in this thread has put it on the line as to where they stand in reference to the OP's post.. but you come along and sound sagely without saying anything of worth whatsoever.

So, care to put it on the line?.. what posts are you surprised about?.. I myself would rather be downcried for a strong opinion than lauded for confuscation. :o
Post edited February 18, 2012 by CaptainKremin
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CaptainKremin: So, care to put it on the line.. what posts are you surprised about?.. I myself would rather be downcried for a strong opinion, rather than lauded for confuscation. :o
While you're on that line, what does confuscation mean?