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Posted March 31, 2011
Say hello to XIII - probably the most unique FPS of all time. Definitely one of the best. Discover it, play it and perhaps shed a tear at the lack of a sequel.

[url=http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/xiii][/url]XIII is a first-person shooter based on the first five volumes of a popular Belgian comic book series. You're put in the shoes of XIII, badly wounded and with no recollection of your past. The American president has been assassinated and all of a sudden everyone's out to get you. Are you the assassin? Were you framed? Whoever you are, you must be damn important and you won't let anyone stop you from reclaiming your identity.
What makes XIII special is its comic book-style design. The characters and weapons are cel-shaded, outlines and all, and there's a whole bunch of stylish features, like visualized sound effects. Imagine shooting a gun and seeing "BLAM!" right next to the muzzle flash. Just how cool is that?
Finally, a great, involving storyline, a perfect musical score, and top-notch voice acting by such actors as David Duchovny and Adam West make XIII an absolutely epic game.
Posted March 31, 2011
HOLY S***. I have this game on the PS2; so much love for it, especially with that hilarious multiplayer mode "hunt"! Instant buy!
Posted March 31, 2011
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Stumpy: There, I fix'd it for you. :P
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mystral: THAT's more true to my experience if you want to be pedantic about it. Maybe the French are worse about it, but they're hardly unique in being arrogant
True enough. Consider me owned. ;)
Posted March 31, 2011
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mystral: Actually most French people would object to the word "comics" because we do use it, but only for the American superhero stuff.
And most French (or Belgian for that matter, I'd guess) people who actually like Bande Déssinée feel it's vastly superior to comics, so...

Personally, I don't care, you can call it however you like, I'm just explaining why it would be perceived as insulting.
The US produced great Comics, not only supehero-related. For example using your argument, Art Spiegelman made comic or "Bande Déssinée"? I really like many french comic authors but pretending that we must use kind of "terminology" only hide traditional french chauvinism.
Anyway the French goverment should have more consideration to "Bande Déssinée" authors if they want to claim it as a cultural icon
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/8269458/Asterix-author-falls-foul-of-French-taxman.html
They not consider Uderzo as an author. "Grotesque".
Post edited March 31, 2011 by tejozaszaszas
Posted March 31, 2011
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Narushima: You don't call mangas "comic books", so call this by its real name : "bande dessinée".
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tejozaszaszas: Pfff. That chauvinism is ridiculous. William Vance and Jean Van Hamme are not even french (also, Charlier, Herge...).
Grzegorz Rosiński also made "bande dessinée"?. We are speaking in english, and european comic have a real european and occidental identity more than a narrow-minded nationalistic one.
I never said the authors were French. But that's how they call what they do, because they speak French
The narrow-mindedness lies in using only one word to call different things.
Mangas are not comics, and bande dessinée is also different. Calling it comics is denying it it's own identity.
Post edited March 31, 2011 by Narushima
Posted March 31, 2011
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tejozaszaszas: Pfff. That chauvinism is ridiculous. William Vance and Jean Van Hamme are not even french (also, Charlier, Herge...).
Grzegorz Rosiński also made "bande dessinée"?. We are speaking in english, and european comic have a real european and occidental identity more than a narrow-minded nationalistic one.
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Narushima: I never said the authors were French. But that's how they call what they do, because they speak French
The narrow-mindedness lies in using only one word to call different things.
Mangas are not comics, and bande dessinée is also different. Calling it comics is denying it it's own identity.
We have also the expression "graphic novel"
Post edited March 31, 2011 by tejozaszaszas
Posted March 31, 2011
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Delixe: TAGES with no revoke tool. On top of that it was never updated so it was a bugger to even install on Vista/7.
Really? I thought it had Starforce, that's why I avoided it.
Posted March 31, 2011
Interesting release, I remember when it came out on consoles and PC the first time - though I also remember the mediocre reviews.

Won't stop me from giving it a good look and maybe buy when on promo...
Posted March 31, 2011
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tejozaszaszas: we have also the expression "graphic novel"
And we have people like Alan Moore saying that "graphic novel" is a ridiculous term and that there's nothing wrong with calling them comics.
Posted March 31, 2011
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lowyhong: Really? I thought it had Starforce, that's why I avoided it.
The digital version certainly used TAGES, it's even listed on GamersGate's page. The original release may have used Starforce as I remember Ubisoft were fans of it back in the day. I only had the pre-release on the Sold Out label which used TAGES.
Posted March 31, 2011
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tejozaszaszas: we have also the expression "graphic novel"
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bazilisek: And we have people like Alan Moore saying that "graphic novel" is a ridiculous term and that there's nothing wrong with calling them comics.
That´s why I don´t use that term. But it exist for the people who want to be more specific.
Post edited March 31, 2011 by tejozaszaszas
Posted March 31, 2011
Excellent release!! XIII is a very unique game and I enjoyed it a lot! Unfortunately for you GOG, I still have the original and it works perfectly. But maybe, one day, if I see the disc starts to be scrached, I'll buy it from you!
Posted March 31, 2011
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tejozaszaszas: The US produced great Comics, not only supehero-related. For example using your argument, Art Spiegelman makes comic or "Bande Déssinée"? I really like many french comic authors but pretending that we must use kind of "terminology" only hide traditional french chauvinism.
Anyway the French goverment should have more consideration to "Bande Déssinée" authors if they want to claim it as a cultural icon
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/8269458/Asterix-author-falls-foul-of-French-taxman.html
Then not even consider Uderzo as an author. "Grotesque".
i know perfectly well that American artists have produced more than the comics Marvel and others publish. Still it's what most people have in mind when they think of comics, and when you go to a store in France the "comics" category will only have superhero-related stuff (although that seems to be changing recently).
To answer your question, I always saw Art Spiegelman's work in the Bande Dessinée section.

I fail to see what a few narrow-minded bureaucrats have to do with the "people who like BD" I was talking about. I don't think anyone's ever accused the tax administration of being particularly enlightened when it comes to culture, in France or anywhere else.
Post edited March 31, 2011 by mystral
Posted March 31, 2011
Ah, XIII is one of the few FPSs I've played, and well worth having in my collection. Wishlisted for now.
Posted March 31, 2011
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bazilisek: And we have people like Alan Moore saying that "graphic novel" is a ridiculous term and that there's nothing wrong with calling them comics.
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tejozaszaszas: That´s why I don´t use that term. But that term exist for the people who want to be more specific.
I think it sort of suits the one-shot things, like Sin City, The killing joke or whatever. I use comics more for the regular issues.
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mystral: [...]Bande Déssinée[...]
Actually it's bande dessinée, no accent on the first e, because of two "s".
Post edited March 31, 2011 by Narushima
Posted March 31, 2011
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tejozaszaszas: That´s why I don´t use that term. But that term exist for the people who want to be more specific.
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Narushima: I think it sort of suits the one-shot things, like Sin City, The killing joke or whatever. I use comics more for the regular issues.
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mystral: [...]Bande Déssinée[...]
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Narushima: Actually it's bande dessinée, no accent on the first e, because of two "s".
True. Sorry about that, I'll edit the mistakes.
It's been a long time since I've written anything in French, I should probably refresh my memory via Bescherelle.
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