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I like the idea, but the system in the picture is too big for a portable.
Not another console. Sheeesh.
And methinks trying to get the jump on the Ouya idea...
Good, more Android shit on the market. Android is the future of consoles, it seems (no it's not anyway)....
What is the difference between this and a tablet with a bluetooth/USB controller?

Except less functionality?
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SimonG: What is the difference between this and a tablet with a bluetooth/USB controller?
Except less functionality?
It's from Nvidia.

That should make it sell a few k to the fanboys at least
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wodmarach: It's from Nvidia.
That should make it sell a few k to the fanboys at least
Nvidia has fanboys? Heck, I'm getting old.
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SimonG: What is the difference between this and a tablet with a bluetooth/USB controller?
It's summed up in the article and on some posts here.

My take: form factor (translating to convenience) and streaming of games from PC. More specifically, in tries to nail the things needed for gaming, a good processor, wireless TV, small but hi-res display, high quality speakers. Some tablets might get some of these, but I don't think there is any tablet which nails them. Also as discussed in one article I read, HDMI output on most tablets is bad for gaming and slows them down, and apparently the Shield should be better in this respect.
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SimonG: Nvidia has fanboys? Heck, I'm getting old.
Nah, you've just been living under a rock. NVIDIA had fanboys for what, 15 years now?
Post edited January 07, 2013 by ET3D
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ET3D: It's summed up in the article and on some posts here.
My take: form factor (translating to convenience) and streaming of games from PC. More
specifically, in tries to nail the things needed for gaming, a good processor, wireless TV,
small but hi-res display, high quality speakers. Some tablets might get some of these, but I
don't think there is any tablet which nails them. Also as discussed in one article I read, HDMI
output on most tablets is bad for gaming and slows them down, and apparently the Shield should
be better in this respect.
But wouldn't it make more sense to, I dunno, put that in a tablet and make that weird controller
removable/bluetooth?.
The only thing I can think of as a benefit is the "larger" form of the controller that allows better hardware
build in.
I guess it is also a question of the price. But anything over 200$ is too much for something like
this, imo.
Post edited January 07, 2013 by SimonG
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wodmarach: It's from Nvidia.
That should make it sell a few k to the fanboys at least
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SimonG: Nvidia has fanboys? Heck, I'm getting old.
You're kidding right? NV has some of the most rabid fans I've ever met... don't mention bumpgate around them or they go on about how it was an AMD plot to trash NV(seriously had this said to me) and how tests that showed AMD cards as faster were faked(every single damn release). Although my fav is that the sub pixel polygons and invisible water rendering were needed in crysis2...
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SimonG: I guess it is also a question of the price. But anything over 200$ is too much for something like
this, imo.
well mobile phones are heavily subsidised and unlocked phones are generally 2-3x the price of locked.. so unless NV controls the content entirely... $4-600... if they have complete control of what runs on it and can rely on game purchases probably down to $200-250
Post edited January 07, 2013 by wodmarach
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wodmarach: You're kidding right? NV has some of the most rabid fans I've ever met... don't mention bumpgate
around them or they go on about how it was an AMD plot to trash NV(seriously had this said to me)
and how tests that showed AMD cards as faster were faked(every single damn release). Although
my fav is that the sub pixel polygons and invisible water rendering were needed in crysis2...
Guess I'm lucky I am not on that part of the internet ;-). I literally flip-floped through my graphic cards.
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wodmarach: well mobile phones are heavily subsidised and unlocked phones are generally 2-3x the price of
locked.. so unless NV controls the content entirely... $4-600... if they have complete
control of what runs on it and can rely on game purchases probably down to $200-250
You can get an Acer Iconia 510 tablet for 380€ over here. A fairly well smartphone (Eg S 3 mini) for even less. New and unlocked. And, personally, I consider each of the devices better for mobile gaming than this. Mostly because you carry those around anyway. No reason to carry an extra device that is extra cluncky.

Nintendo and Sony still have excellent games on their handhelds, which is often more important than any technical hardware stuff. But android games.

I could be wrong, of course, but so far I see no compelling reason to buy this. Especially if it is more expensive than current Vita/DS.
Post edited January 07, 2013 by SimonG
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SimonG: Guess I'm lucky I am not on that part of the internet ;-). I literally flip-floped through my
graphic cards.
I tend to aswell though I'm thinking of swearing off NV cards for awhile since the last 3 I've owned all came from 1 purchase (8800 which got bumpgated which warrenty replaced new for old with a 280 which blew up due to a shoddy driver 2 weeks later... though I will admit the replacement to that lasted till I picked up a cheap HD6950
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SimonG: But wouldn't it make more sense to, I dunno, put that in a tablet and make that weird controller
removable/bluetooth?.
The only thing I can think of as a benefit is the "larger" form of the controller that allows
better hardware
build in.
I guess it is also a question of the price. But anything over 200$ is too much for something like
this, imo.
I agree with you that it would have been nice if the display was detachable and usable as a tablet. But that would have made it thicker and heavier and probably changed the balance when playing. It would also have most likely added to the cost.

I still think it's a good product as is. I bought my Nexus 7 mostly for gaming. Granted a lot of the gaming I want (adventure / RPG) is better with a touch screen than with a controller. Still, I've already tried streaming games from my PC, there are certainly controller based games on my PC that I'd love playing anywhere in the house, and there are games I have on the tablet which would likely be better with a controller (Shadowgun, Wild Blood).

I can see the attraction, but as you said (and I said in my first post), price will play a large role in how attractive this is.
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SimonG: I could be wrong, of course, but so far I see no compelling reason to buy this. Especially if it is
more expensive than current Vita/DS.
I honestly can't see it being cheaper than a vita, most of the Ouya's savings come from T3 and lack of screen this has T4 and a screen...
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ET3D: I can see the attraction, but as you said (and I said in my first post), price will play a large role
in how attractive this is.
That it will. But the fact that Nvidia is not giving any indication yet is probably not a good sign.
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ET3D: For those saying it can't compete with a real console, I won't be surprised if it could. From the
Tegra 4 specs it looks like it's encroaching on Xbox 360 or PS3 territory (Certainly Wii U).
I'd place the graphics around an old NV6600 the CPU... i'll give them maybe 2x the power of an ipad(new version) so a low powered power5... say 2 of the 360's 3 cores at a guess(but without the same clocks and extensions it will likely run slower) but yes the CPU is about the same as the WiiU the GPU though is about 2-3 gens behind