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Hmmm... note to self... don't try to be funny by sharing what I thought was a humorous little thing I saw in the paper today...
Lesson learnt.
Oma, komm uns doch mal besuchen, aber vergiss nicht, Opa mitzubringen.
Oma, komm uns doch mal besuchen, aber vergiss Opa nicht mitzubringen.
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tinyE: He's very important, 'Cheers' would have sucked without him.
I see what you did there. :p

True though.
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hedwards: The reason people are against grammar is that it's bullshit. And that comes from somebody who makes his living because of those same rules.

A lot of the "rules" aren't rules at all. There's no reason why you can't split infinitives or dangle participles. Some constructs are used by damn near everybody despite being wrong for technical reasons.
Here, here! (well aware; don't bother) :P

I believe Stephen Fry sums it up well: http://youtu.be/J7E-aoXLZGY
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/ok_thats_it_is_there_a_mod_around_here/post67
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hedwards: The reason people are against grammar is that it's bullshit. And that comes from somebody who makes his living because of those same rules.

A lot of the "rules" aren't rules at all. There's no reason why you can't split infinitives or dangle participles. Some constructs are used by damn near everybody despite being wrong for technical reasons.
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jdsiege: Here, here! (well aware; don't bother) :P

I believe Stephen Fry sums it up well: http://youtu.be/J7E-aoXLZGY
I haven't seen that in a while.It's a good one. I always wonder about those grammar folks that let novelists off the hook despite most novels being largely based upon ungrammatical language.
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jdsiege: I believe Stephen Fry sums it up well: http://youtu.be/J7E-aoXLZGY
On the other hand: http://youtu.be/ff3YVruoTgs

Not actually the clip I was looking for, but it'll do. I do admire Stephen Fry though, don't get me wrong.
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hedwards: I haven't seen that in a while.It's a good one. I always wonder about those grammar folks that let novelists off the hook despite most novels being largely based upon ungrammatical language.
Aye, Cormac McCarthy would be properly screwed if they actually gave a damn. (Damn, No Country for Old Men and The Road were tedious to read!)
:)
nvm
Post edited February 11, 2014 by Potzato
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hedwards: I haven't seen that in a while.It's a good one. I always wonder about those grammar folks that let novelists off the hook despite most novels being largely based upon ungrammatical language.
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jdsiege: Aye, Cormac McCarthy would be properly screwed if they actually gave a damn. (Damn, No Country for Old Men and The Road were tedious to read!)
:)
I can't remember where I was reading about somebody who had just graduated with an english degree and was checking a famous novelists work. IIRC she had to be taught that proper grammar has very little to do with the business of novel writing. Most of those novels have a shit ton of sentence fragments.

And don't get me started on passive voice sentences. Where would the mystery genre be without those?
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Wishbone: On the other hand: http://youtu.be/ff3YVruoTgs

Not actually the clip I was looking for, but it'll do. I do admire Stephen Fry though, don't get me wrong.
That only makes me sad. BBC America doesn't find QI fit for our consumption -- only Top Gear, Ramsey and Doctor Who. I do try to watch it on Youtube when possible. :(
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Wishbone: On the other hand: http://youtu.be/ff3YVruoTgs

Not actually the clip I was looking for, but it'll do. I do admire Stephen Fry though, don't get me wrong.
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jdsiege: That only makes me sad. BBC America doesn't find QI fit for our consumption -- only Top Gear, Ramsey and Doctor Who. I do try to watch it on Youtube when possible. :(
Doesn't you're local PBS station carry anything? Masterpiece theater and Mystery often times feature British programming. I think A&E does as well.

Top Gear is great, unless you're referring to the American version.
EDIT: Grammar.
Post edited February 11, 2014 by hedwards
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hedwards: Doesn't you're local PBS station carry anything? Masterpiece theater and Mystery often times feature British programming. I think A&E does as well.

Top Gear is great, unless you're referring to the American version.
Mostly Tom Baker DW, Sherlock Holmes, Blackadder, Fawlty Towers and the like. I mostly wanted to express my disapproval of BBC America as of late. The last risk they took was Peepshow and that hasn't aired in quite some time.

I only wish they'd re-air Orphan Black. I only heard of it in the middle of the second run. Perhaps they will before season two.

* And I do enjoy Top Gear on occasion, despite not being a gear-head.
Post edited February 11, 2014 by jdsiege
Haista kaavittu = Scraped from a shark.

Haistakaa vittu = Go f*ck yourselves (literally: "Go smell a cunt")

The space is just in a different place, and they sound exactly the same when said out loud.

(yeah I've said that one before)
Post edited February 11, 2014 by timppu
Grammar is important because it makes more people to believe your phising mails.