Glad it's not my problem.

Yeah, figured right after I posted it that it would bring an irreverence to the thread that wasn't warranted. I always second guess my posts..

Honestly, I get the sentiment, but the Chinese language only recently gained a word for privacy. It's just like everything else, you kind of just roll with the punches.

As for foreign affairs, I'm not really in a position to know or comment about that.

I'm amazed at how many people support this guy. The aggression he showed towards his own daughter is imho very disturbing. I wouldn't be surprised if he's largely responsible for any problems she might have.

What he's done, destroying a laptop that might have contained important documents, then posting it on the Internet specifically to humiliate her, is something I might do to somebody I truly, violently hated. I would certainly never do that to my own kid.

I don't care how much he says it was to give her an objective lesson. That sounds like an evasion and an excuse to me. He reacted childishly to his child's actions, and now he's trying to reason that it was a mature thing to do. Besides, parents aren't meant to try and outdo their children in how horrible they can be. If she starts drinking underage, will he become a raging alcoholic to show her how bad alcohol can be?

You guys might want to check this out:
http://mashable.com/2012/02/11/dad-addresses-facebook-laptop-shooting/#4810715-The-daughters-response
Apparently even the DAUGHTER thinks people are blowing this out of proportion.
In response to the comments saying that she was going to go bat-shit insane from this he posted: "She actually asked me to post a comment on one of the threads (and I did) asking what other fields the victims of laptop-homicide were eligible for because she wasn't too keen on the stripping thing."
I think she'll live, teenagers are stronger than people give them credit for. For the record, he never intended the video to go viral to this extent, and he's learned his lesson on this.

edit: He still should have known better though, especially for anybody working in the computer field.

Hm, fair enough.

That's rather old news by now, and there are several problems with it:

1. Every piece of information is relayed through the father - the daughter obviously can't tell her version of the story since she's grounded and without internet access. He might be telling the truth or he might not, there's no way to determine that. Obviously, the people who trusted the dad before will probably trust him in this matter too, while the people who were skeptical towards him won't see much reason to change that stance.

2. His statement that "even she agrees that the internet is overreacting" is often seen as the daughter justifying his actions. The latter doesn't however logically follow from the former. It could just as well mean "My dad went crazy, but the internet overreacted too." However, the discussion has already created two fronts which both think rather one-sided about the issue, so people tend to believe something that supports their view without questioning it properly.

Note that I'm aware that there may be good reasons for not providing better proof. In all likelihood the family will be better off if the public discussion dies off rather than being stimulated again. I'm however pointing out that there is also good reason to not take everything the dad says at face value.

Anyway. The video created many interesting discussions throughout the internet. But I think it quickly reached the point where people are entering in ideology wars about parenting instead of trying to accurately assess both sides of the coin (the GOG discussion has been rather civil, but I'm talking about the internet-wide effect here). So I think the discussion has outlived its usefulness for a while now, and it's probably best to simply let it die.

Since there is a chance that the situation is actually much worse than the dad tries to portray it now, I think that the local youth protection office (if something like this exists over there) should contact the family, and at least assure the daughter that there are places she can go to _if_ something's really wrong. It seems unlikely that there's anything going on in the family that really warrants the office to take any action beyond that, but given the one-sidedness of the way information is provided, it would be good to at least have a look.

Quite a few gun owners become very "attached" to their guns and as such know a lot about them (projectile speed, weight, range, number of bullets it holds, etc). When you know how many bullets the gun holds, all you need to do to know how many bullets that are left in the gun is count the number of shots you have made.

Of course some gun handlers become really accustomed to their weapon and can "feel" the difference in weight between a loaded gun and an empty one. Though I doubt that he could figure out that there were 2 bullets inside from the weight, it is not impossible.

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Point taken

I think this guy is a BAMF and a good father.

The moral is simple and just: "You can have a new laptop when you buy a new laptop (with hard worked money)".

He could do anything he wanted with his laptop (obviously he bought it) and he chose to shot it for artistic impression. Filming and publishing the stunt was meant to show his daughter the same feeling of being publicly humiliated that he felt reading that Facebook post.
What he did was't plain wrong but not the best thing he could have done either.

Anyhow, he might consider asking for help to a psychologist.

Not so much here, but I've seen quite a few people say they would probably end up hating their father for the rest of their lives, and would stop talking to him. I think that's just as weird.

anyways to answer the question of the OP - Would I do the same? No. I just can't understand the thought process of " I'll take her computer away. No wait....just taking it away isn't enough. ....I know! I'll SHOOT IT!!!!"

But would I let something like this cause me to resent my dad for a long long time? no.

I dunno about the whole situation this is a video game right? I don't even know what the outside world is, all in all I'd rate it like this

Graphics: 7/10
Sharp details on clothing and character model, but some ugly textures appear here and there on lawn

Sound: 6/10
The world sounds genuinely alive, with birds chirping and cars whizzing by. Unfortunately, it is still marred by occasional stuttering in the voice acting.


Controls: 9/10
Gun aiming and firing is smooth and responsive

Gameplay- 6/10:
A mixed bag. Some of the missions can be fun, like the one that involves a bit of stealth by breaking into a girl's facebook account, and the final mission is a thriller. Other missions can be drawn out and tedious, such the one that involves upgrading a laptop for 6 hours. The AI can also be horrible. You might find yourself asking one of your AI squadmates to sweep the area or wipe the counter only to find them standing still and doing nothing, or just running off somewhere nowhere to be seen

Story: 7/10
A complex tale filled with morally ambiguous characters that raises many questions . It also has a real shock for an ending that will have people talking. But it still leaves some loose ends and storylines that are never fleshed out properly. Is Linda actually a cleaning lady? Who is she really? We never find out, which is disappointing. Hopefully it will be revealed in the sequel.

Lasting Appeal: TBD

Overall ( not an average) 6/10 OKAY

Please guys, stop talking about my inability to understand guns. I've gotten 8 replies to that EXACT comment, I only needed one.

Has any more news popped up about the two since the video aired?

I had to really laugh at the "let's review this like a video game" stuff. As to the notion if would you resent the father.. I'd have to say that life-long resentment is probably just as bad as the overreaction of the father, but it'd certainly put doubt into my mind whether this person should eve be a father, or if they're even capable of handling the responsibilities of being a parent. It was pretty clear the guy didn't know how to handle something as harmless as a facebook post.

EDIT: Looking at some of the posts since my last one..

The notion that "I'm the father, I can do what I want, say what I want, and until you turn 18 you're my property and will do what you're told." is by far some of the most offensive logic I've ever seen as a parent. Nevermind that many parents actually still believe their children should bend to their will after they've hit 18, it's one of the reasons so many kids move out as soon as they can.

Also, and I'm surprised nobody has brought this up: Some years back, Richard Pryer unloaded a magnum into his car's tires in a fit of anger. He was arrested. He understood why and was able to joke about it afterwards cause he was that cool of a guy.

Likewise, the idea that just cause you own a gun you can discharge it in your house without regard for safety or concern is equally laughable. Bullets can misfire, shots can bounce off of surfaces, shards could hit somebody. If nothing else, the guy should've been arrested for reckless behaviour.

First of all, you must have failed to watch the video, he discharged the gun at a steep angle at a laptop sitting on a lawn outside. He wasn't irresponsible in the way he discharged the gun in the least (not debating whether he had a good reason to discharge it, just saying he did so in a safe manner).

Given that you seem to not even have watched the video I somewhat question the utility of even responding to the quoted part above but here we go:

I don't care if a kid wants to stretch their wings, that's fine, and it's fine with most parents. The part you're taking issue with is usually simply a childlike overreaction to parents reasonably saying, "No, there are limits, you are crossing them, no debate on this one, too bad." That's both legal and reasonable. Likewise, as a parent, you're pretty much legally and financially responsible for most of the actions of your special little snowflake. So you're saying you don't think the person who is not only responsible for nearly 100% of their upkeep and is legally responsible for their actions can't say "No, sorry, you don't do that!"? I guess I see why a 16 year old would think that, I'm not sure why an adult would.

Kids, have limits to everything, including privacy and freedom of action. That's not to say they don't have plenty of freedom as well, but the liberties are earned and can and will be revoked as needed to make sure the kid doesn't kill themselves or otherwise seriously fuck up. Heck, revoking them just to say, "You do not have the right to shit on everyone around you," is perfectly reasonable as well.

No one wants a slave for a kid, as you posit (or the number who do are so vanishingly small that it's not even worth debating), if they did they could save the money it costs to raise a kid and hire a servant instead.