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Posted April 13, 2011
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eyeball226: Done a little poking over at Chronic Logic and it seems that the update isn't available because of lack of cooperation from them. Basically we don't have the update because they don't want us to. Dicks.
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xyem: Wait.. so.. Chronic Logic don't want to provide an update?
Yes. As far as I can tell, people who've bought it on Steam haven't got the update either.

I've just been exchanging emails with the guy who seems to run Chronic Logic. He seems to be contradicting himself. At first (on the forum topic you also saw) he says "Unfortunately we do not have access to that order information from those other purchases so we cannot transfer your orders."

When I proposed sending the update to Wolfire and Valve he said "The Chronic Logic version of Gish is not the same version as the HIB so it is not possible to just have them update their version with our update."

So, I proposed sending the updated build rather than a patch. He said "no we were not involved with the HIB.", which confused me quite a bit.

After a bit of discussion he basically said that HIB customers aren't his customers and that's why we don't have the update. I've replied asking:

"Did you see any of the money from the HIB? What about purchases on Steam? If
you got money from the HIB and Steam sales, then they are your customers and
you owe it to them to let them have the update (by giving it to Wolfire and
Valve to distribute)."

We'll see what he says.



Done a little poking over at Chronic Logic and it seems that the update isn't available because of lack of cooperation from them. Basically we don't have the update because they don't want us to. Dicks.
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KavazovAngel: No need to offend them, they have us the game, after all. But yes, it is their fault that the update is not available on HIB.
Yes, sorry. I'm just annoyed with him because he's basically flat out refusing. Not even making the "order details" excuse any more.




EDIT: His reply is "Chronic Logic was not involved in any way with the HIB or Steam versions."

Well that's puzzling. Who included it in the bundle and is selling it on Steam then?

Chronic Logic is listed as the publisher on Steam and the name also appears on the original HIB page.
Post edited April 13, 2011 by eyeball226
Posted April 13, 2011
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eyeball226: Yes, sorry. I'm just annoyed with him because he's basically flat out refusing. Not even making the "order details" excuse any more.
No problem. I also haven't played the game because it is not up to date. And probably never will (bought HIB1 just for World of Goo and Aquaria anyway).
Posted April 13, 2011
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eyeball226: EDIT: His reply is "Chronic Logic was not involved in any way with the HIB or Steam versions."

Well that's puzzling. Who included it in the bundle and is selling it on Steam then?

Chronic Logic is listed as the publisher on Steam and the name also appears on the original HIB page.
Okay, that's just odd. I think you need to find someone else at CL to talk to, that guy obviously has no idea what he is talking about.
Posted April 13, 2011
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eyeball226: EDIT: His reply is "Chronic Logic was not involved in any way with the HIB or Steam versions."

Well that's puzzling. Who included it in the bundle and is selling it on Steam then?

Chronic Logic is listed as the publisher on Steam and the name also appears on the original HIB page.
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cogadh: Okay, that's just odd. I think you need to find someone else at CL to talk to, that guy obviously has no idea what he is talking about.
No no, this is the guy who runs CL.
Also, I just checked and Steam doesn't have the update.
Post edited April 13, 2011 by eyeball226
Posted April 13, 2011
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cogadh: Okay, that's just odd. I think you need to find someone else at CL to talk to, that guy obviously has no idea what he is talking about.
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eyeball226: No no, this is the guy who runs CL.
Also, I just checked and Steam doesn't have the update.
Uh, my Steam version is definitely different from the HIB version I originally downloaded. The version I have in Steam is 1.80.10, I'm not sure what version the HIB originally had, but this one has more units, more research options... just more stuff.

EDIT - Waitaminnit... you're talking about Gish, I was thinking of Revenge of the Titans (isn't that where all this started?). My Gish version in Steam is still 1.52.
Post edited April 13, 2011 by cogadh
Posted April 13, 2011
Just drop the cash for this one.

It's waaay above the average, that's for sure.
Posted April 13, 2011
I activated my copies on Steam. First Steam games!

Anyway, might not be the right place to say this, but if anyone wants to add me my name is Immoli2 (I appear as MrImmoli)
Posted April 13, 2011
I still need to download my HIB2 games that I bought, but I love these guys. Sadly I always seem to order from my Windows machine so I never get counted in boosting the Linux average:(

Anyway, HIB3 is in the bag, can't wait to try out Trine given how cool I thought that Frozenbyte fellow was being the other day.
Posted April 13, 2011
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orcishgamer: I still need to download my HIB2 games that I bought, but I love these guys. Sadly I always seem to order from my Windows machine so I never get counted in boosting the Linux average:(

Anyway, HIB3 is in the bag, can't wait to try out Trine given how cool I thought that Frozenbyte fellow was being the other day.
You can change what OS you want your money to appear to be from on the download page for your games. Since I flip-flop back and forth between Win and Linux, I have mine marked as both.
Posted April 13, 2011
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orcishgamer: I still need to download my HIB2 games that I bought, but I love these guys. Sadly I always seem to order from my Windows machine so I never get counted in boosting the Linux average:(

Anyway, HIB3 is in the bag, can't wait to try out Trine given how cool I thought that Frozenbyte fellow was being the other day.
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cogadh: You can change what OS you want your money to appear to be from on the download page for your games. Since I flip-flop back and forth between Win and Linux, I have mine marked as both.
Oh cool, I had no idea, thanks for the info!
Post edited April 13, 2011 by orcishgamer
Posted April 13, 2011
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cogadh: EDIT - Waitaminnit... you're talking about Gish, I was thinking of Revenge of the Titans (isn't that where all this started?). My Gish version in Steam is still 1.52.
I'm pretty sure this all started with Xyem complaining about the lack of Gish update. Dunno where you got RotT from. =P
Posted April 13, 2011
After two days they're closing in on $500,000.
Posted April 14, 2011
Average amount is pretty low this time. Maybe it's the games, one of them being a pre-order and the other a prototype?

Anyway purchased.
Posted April 14, 2011
I think its the games also. This time its basically 3 games. Also they have been on sale quite cheap and often.
Posted April 14, 2011
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eyeball226: I'm pretty sure this all started with Xyem complaining about the lack of Gish update. Dunno where you got RotT from. =P
Thanks for your research into this.. I'm.. surprised (to put it mildly) at the response.

I was going to buy something else from Chronic Logic but that attitude has really put me off. They received the money for that game, yet refuse to provide updates simply because they aren't direct customers?

The only reason I can think of is that they added DRM and it no longer matches the "DRM free" aspect of the bundle.. but I can't find anywhere that says this is the case.

Would this be worthy of a separate topic for discussion?
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