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lukaszthegreat: i don't think anyone is making fun of people who don't like science.

we make fun of people who are morons.
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Vestin: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If it makes you feel better about yourselves...
don't get it?

did you actually read the fb page posted ?
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Irenaeus.: In the EU, you need some form of photocard ID to travel between countries. This is usually a passport, but in countries where a national ID card scheme operates, you can use that instead. Passports aren't stamped when you cross borders. Some other countries are in a similar scheme to the EU for movement of people and trade, Switzerland being the obvious one.

Speaking as a UK person, passports are almost an essential item for us, they are the main form of ID since we do not have national ID cards, and are required for when you start work at most jobs.
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cogadh: Just by way of comparison, US residents don't need any ID at all to travel between states, which is roughly equivalent to Europeans traveling between countries (in terms of geography crossed). We only need a passport/ID to cross borders into Canada or Mexico, but most of us only rarely do things like that. I live only a half hour away from the Canadian border and since the new rules went into effect requiring passports, I don't go to Canada anymore. As it is, I only used to enter Canada to use it as a shortcut to head East to New York, but the between the hassles at the border these days and the fact that a passport is so expensive and such a pain in the ass to get (fill out a form, present it and multiple forms of identifying documentation in person, pay up to $165, wait 4-6 weeks to get it), the longer trip within the States is simply worth it.
how long is your passport valid? ours are 10 years.
and what about actually leaving usa? don't you want to go to mexico brazil, france, thailand and so on and on?
world is a big place.
Post edited June 19, 2011 by lukaszthegreat
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lukaszthegreat: how long is your passport valid? ours are 10 years.
and what about actually leaving usa? don't you want to go to mexico brazil, france, thailand and so on and on?
world is a big place.
All passports are valid for 10 years.

Going places like that requires a lot of something I don't have: time and money. Sure, I'd love to visit places like that, but buying a passport now is not going to make a difference when I can't take the time off of work, can't afford the plane ticket to get there, can't afford the hotel once I've arrived, can't afford food to keep me alive while I'm there, etc., etc., etc.

Yes, the world is a big place, but so is the United States (almost as big as all of Europe) and I still haven't seen even a quarter of it. On top of that, nearly every country I would like to visit has been a part of building the US, so if I want to experience say, Brazilian culture, I'd go to West 46th Street in New York or south Florida, both a cheap plane flight or a long drive away from where I live.
Sorry, I'm trying and failing at my wife's iphone. What you are saying about the us is true and a lot of people don't take advantage of it.
Post edited June 19, 2011 by Tulivu
If any of these people get accepted into and graduate from a decent university I will be frightened.
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Wraith: If any of these people get accepted into and graduate from a decent university I will be frightened.
Two words for you: Grade Inflation.

I've seen it grading moronic papers in the college labs. They'll get some kind of degree. And it will be meaningless beyond a badge to show to other people.
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Wraith: If any of these people get accepted into and graduate from a decent university I will be frightened.
Maybe not a decent university, but with the variety and range of quality in the schools we have here, odds are one of them will be willing to give them a degree.
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cogadh: All passports are valid for 10 years.
To be more accurate, all adult passports are valid for 10 years. Children's passports are valid for 5 years, and I think infants may only have ones that are valid for a year at most.
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cogadh: Yes, the world is a big place, but so is the United States (almost as big as all of Europe) and I still haven't seen even a quarter of it. On top of that, nearly every country I would like to visit has been a part of building the US, so if I want to experience say, Brazilian culture, I'd go to West 46th Street in New York or south Florida, both a cheap plane flight or a long drive away from where I live.
usa is not that big. it is just one country with lots of minorities but that's no way the real thing (what you are saying about brazil and 46th street)
a country with only 500 year traditions and history is not the same thing as europe of 3000 years of history and traditions even if by size it is comparable.

so i wish you good luck hope you can earn enough to enjoy life and go places outside your country. world is a beautiful place you know :)
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Wraith: If any of these people get accepted into and graduate from a decent university I will be frightened.
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strixo: Two words for you: Grade Inflation.

I've seen it grading moronic papers in the college labs. They'll get some kind of degree. And it will be meaningless beyond a badge to show to other people.
I'm assuming grade inflation is the same as grading on a curve? My university, Portland State, does it selectively. I've seen it done in Japanese and Art History. I know for a fact the reason the Japanese department does it is that if they don't have a certain percentage of the students passing, they lose funding. I think the same may have been for my Art History classes, but it may have been because the teacher was notoriously hard.

My actual major doesn't grade on a curve, and neither do some of the larger departments, so your grade is dependent on your own work.
Oh boy! Controversial Facebook posts from someone I don't know!
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sethsez: Kids are stupid. Teenagers are still kids. Chances are good they'll grow up and stop being so goddamn dumb, like every stupid teenager before them.
And until then, someone should take the interwebz from them
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lukaszthegreat: usa is not that big. it is just one country with lots of minorities but that's no way the real thing (what you are saying about brazil and 46th street)
a country with only 500 year traditions and history is not the same thing as europe of 3000 years of history and traditions even if by size it is comparable.

so i wish you good luck hope you can earn enough to enjoy life and go places outside your country. world is a beautiful place you know :)
Actually, the USA really is that big and it's not really just one country with a bunch of little minorities, it is several states that are essentially their own countries unto themselves, joined by a common statement of purpose. It is not any kind of homogeneous mixture at all, not just in culture, but in geography as well. You can visit some states or parts of states and swear you had entered a completely different country. The best example of this is probably Pennsylvania Amish country, where the people are virtually unchanged from the German and Dutch immigrants they are descended from to the point where they still speak the old German dialect of their ancestors. Nearly every state in the union has its own local culture like that: the Creole in Louisiana, the Spanish/Cuban people of Florida, the Native Americans of New Mexico... ah yes, the indigenous peoples... While the US may only have about 500 years of European settled history, it also has thousands of years of actual native history and traditions. I could spend my entire life exploring the 12000 years of native cultures in the US and never even get to experiencing any of the far more recent immigrant cultures. Sure, visiting "Little Brazil" is not the same as actually going to Brazil, and I would obviously prefer the actual trip to Brazil, but. circumstances being what they are, if I can't go to Brazil for the real Carnival, I'm not going to say no to seeing "Carnival light" in New York.
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TheJoe: Oh boy! Controversial Facebook posts from someone I don't know!
Well...

The thing is....

Now you do know them.

YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!
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Wishbone: And those two are the future of America. All I can say is "Good luck, America!"
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stonebro: Nah, those two aren't the future of America.

I'm willing to stretch it as far as the future of the burger grill at Joe's in downtown Jerkwater.
Really? My first thought was "they sound a lot like George W. Bush, only using English slightly better than he ever did".
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lukaszthegreat: usa is not that big.
That....what? What? Isn't that....what?