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Ois: Gamers Gate are getting interesting for newer releases, not that I can afford them, but the competition is good. It's also great to hear they are dumping the client.

Already dumped (or will be in a matter of days), when they sent out the email notice, they gave the client a remaining life time of one week. The great thing about them dumping their client is the fact that you can now have a local backup for the instal files and don't need to run their client to install the games anymore.
I assume there must still be some kind of online activation for DRM, but they did mention that once installed, you do not need to be online to play. So, I don't know what exactly has changed in the installation process. I might pick up a dirt cheap title to see. It's also good to see that GamersGate do a far better job then Valve, when it comes to expanding their catalogue.
Hell, Valve still haven't put Saints Row 2 up for sale in Japan, desipte the publishers assuring me it should have been released here on the 30th of Janurary over Steam.
Impulse though? All I see is crap in their line up and a web interface that likes to randomly stop responding. Not my idea of a service I wish to use.
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darthcobley: note has anyone actully bought sins of a solar empire entrenchment yet??????

I have, and so have my brother, but since its still in beta its rather unbalanced and missing some of the new content making it a bit lopsided.
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Faithful: Man, I almost bought Titan Quest from Impulse, but I cannot bring myself to use Impulse and be beholden to Stardock whenever I want to play or reinstall the game.
Come on gog get this game here for $5.99 and I will buy it.

You do not need to have impulse running to play games you got from it, you just use it to download and update them.
I can't remember if it does it for all games, but it also has a way of archiving an application so that you can put it on a flash drive or DVD and just install it again later. They atleast do this for their own titles, I dunno about other ones.
Impulse is not a form of DRM. If you haven't seen it, seek out the 'Gamers Bill of Rights'.
Post edited February 06, 2009 by Barelyhomosapien
Heh, Soulstorm was around the same on steam two weeks ago (or around so). Only you also got DoW2 beta with that. Plus Soulstorm has all the races for skirmish. But that steam deal is over now so yeah that is a pretty nice offer.
Personally I tried to get into impulse. But after several technical issues installing and than attempting to run (it actually prompted me that it might damage my computer, which I thought was kind of weird) after which I gave up and don't suppose I'll be trying again.
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Barelyhomosapien: Impulse is not a form of DRM. If you haven't seen it, seek out the 'Gamers Bill of Rights'.

Despite the GBoR and what Stardock may say, Impulse IS a form of DRM.
- You cannot transfer your purchased game to another of your machines and play it unless that machine also has Impulse and has connected it to the internet at least once.
- You cannot resell your game (what DRM is really trying to stop anyway)
- You cannot get patches, updates, or DLC for your games unless you do it through Impulse.
I'm not saying it's a bad system, but don't kid yourself that it's not a form of DRM.
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Almak: Heh, Soulstorm was around the same on steam two weeks ago (or around so). Only you also got DoW2 beta with that. Plus Soulstorm has all the races for skirmish. But that steam deal is over now so yeah that is a pretty nice offer.
Personally I tried to get into impulse. But after several technical issues installing and than attempting to run (it actually prompted me that it might damage my computer, which I thought was kind of weird) after which I gave up and don't suppose I'll be trying again.

I thought the steam one was around 8, not 4. Which is why I didn't get it, I did think about it though.
Yeah, sorry. 8USD but I think it was 4EUR for us Europe blokes. Which is what I meant but forgot that we are now making the distinction as far as steam is concerned.
Sadly enough we are, yeah.
Impulse had some really great deals. Did anyone get the $3.99 Space Rangers Complete? That was the most awesome deal I've had. Hours of endless fun, for the price of a McDonald's meal
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Coelocanth: - You cannot transfer your purchased game to another of your machines and play it unless that machine also has Impulse and has connected it to the internet at least once.

While the rest of what you say is quite true, this is not. If you have a computer not connected to the internet you can archive a purchase from impulse and transfer it to another computer via some other medium. i.e. flash drives, CD's, etc.
I am not sure if impulse is needed to then install it. They've done as much as possible to make the system as accessible as possible.
If it's DRM then it's DRM I'd take over steam, starforce, securom or any other modern DRM thats available.
Though by the definition you're using GoG has some forms of DRM as you need an account to download a game. An internet connection to get any new content they release for it etc etc.
I sound a bit like a stardock fanboy I realise. But the company is doing the best it can to be fair to it's customers. You don't need impulse running to play any games you've bought from it or to be conneced to the net.
Post edited February 06, 2009 by Barelyhomosapien
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Barelyhomosapien: While the rest of what you say is quite true, this is not. If you have a computer not connected to the internet you can archive a purchase from impulse and transfer it to another computer via some other medium. i.e. flash drives, CD's, etc.

Yes, this is true, but the key is...
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Barelyhomosapien: I am not sure if impulse is needed to then install it. They've done as much as possible to make the system as accessible as possible.

You do. You cannot run any game purchased through Impulse unless you have Impulse on that machine.
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Barelyhomosapien: If it's DRM then it's DRM I'd take over steam, starforce, securom or any other modern DRM thats available.
Though by the definition you're using GoG has some forms of DRM as you need an account to download a game. An internet connection to get any new content they release for it etc etc.
I sound a bit like a stardock fanboy I realise. But the company is doing the best it can to be fair to it's customers. You don't need impulse running to play any games you've bought from it or to be conneced to the net.

No argument there. I know they're doing what they can to be fair. All I'm pointing out is it's inaccurate to say Impulse is not a DRM model.
And there's a huge difference between Impulse and GoG, as you can burn your GoG games to disc and pretty much do whatever you want with them. No need to be logged into GoG, no need for extra software, and no need to even have an account on GoG anymore if you want to load your games onto a different one of your rigs.
Again, I'm not saying Stardock's model is bad. Hell, I'm DLing a game though Impulse as I type this.
Post edited February 06, 2009 by Coelocanth
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Coelocanth: No argument there. I know they're doing what they can to be fair. All I'm pointing out is it's inaccurate to say Impulse is not a DRM model.
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Alright, I stand corrected then, you're right I guess it IS a DRM model, but one we seem to both agree is acceptable and I reckon that is the big difference. I am just alittle tired of people 'crying wolf' at the companies that are avoiding intrusive DRM (like GOG and Stardock) which is why I got a little protective there.
These companies do their best and some people try to crap on it anyway. Bleh I say.
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Barelyhomosapien: I am just alittle tired of people 'crying wolf' at the companies that are avoiding intrusive DRM (like GOG and Stardock) which is why I got a little protective there.

Gog has no DRM at all and is a class by itself on this issue. No one can really touch gog in this area and it just keeps getting better with more and more games.
Post edited February 06, 2009 by Faithful
While I am disappointed that you have to keep Impulse on your pc to play Titan Quest and DOW. It's still worth it at $3.99 per game. I'll bite on them when I get home from work tonight.
Yeah, I bought earlier today, I am kind of excited to try them out.