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Posted May 28, 2011
I don't think it's illegal.

BUT it's quite possibly against, for example, the steam subscriber agreement so you could lose access to the game (or maybe your whole account) if steam finds out.

I'd guess they don't sell the same key multiple times, but that's also a risk you take (it's not like steam is going to help you work the situation out after all).

It's less then $20 more to just buy it straight from steam - is it really worth the risk? I don't think so, personally, but maybe you disagree.
Posted May 28, 2011
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Sirkenneloth: Like more people are telling isn't not legal. Buying games and selling the keys isn't something publisher want.
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hedwards: They might not want that, but there's no law against it. First Sale Doctrine applies, and regardless of what the publishers might want once you've paid for the copy there is precisely nothing they can do to prevent resales.

Personally, I'm not familiar enough with the service to know or particularly trust them, but the folks claiming that it's illegal do have the burden of proof in this case to actually prove that it's not legal.

EDIT: I'm not personally sure I see the difference between this and my buying a game from Foxhack and not insisting that he send me the actual physical copy rather than just the key.
I never said the practice was illegal; I said it was legal in Thailand. :)

I believe they're allowed by law (hopefully someone will come by and clear this up), but everywhere else has no law for or against this, so it's a grey issue.

Edit: Mr.Spatula has a point, this is probably prohibited by the Steam subscriber agreement.
Post edited May 28, 2011 by Foxhack
Posted May 28, 2011
Hello

My name Is Filip and I am the owner of Cdkeysdicount I seen some traffic coming from this site to my shop and I looked.

We are not forcing anyone to buy our keys it is your choice and we understand that you don't feel safe about buying our games, but there is no need to disrespect the shop we haven't done anything wrong and we don't deserve to be called scammers.

We sell keys that come from boxes of the game

Foxhack - what does Region Blocked Orange box from Russia Has got to do with it? everyone knows that some Russians keys are blocked and some are not.

Our Duke nukem keys come from USA, and they are region free and it will work everywhere.

If you don't want to buy then don't and I respect that but please do not call us something that we are not unless you have proof because we are working very hard to satisfy our customers and what you write here is just not right.

Regards,
Filip
Post edited May 28, 2011 by Filipkiewicz
Posted May 28, 2011
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Foxhack: I never said the practice was illegal; I said it was legal in Thailand. :)
No you didn't. And Blizzard didn't freak out because I bought the key in that fashion. Which was my point, sorry for any confusion.

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Foxhack: I believe they're allowed by law (hopefully someone will come by and clear this up), but everywhere else has no law for or against this, so it's a grey issue.

Edit: Mr.Spatula has a point, this is probably prohibited by the Steam subscriber agreement.
It's mainly a grey issue because one doesn't physically have a copy of the key in their possession. It definitely could be illegal, in the same way that the physical copy could be a knock off. Doesn't make it inherently illegal though, despite what some folks in this thread might say.
Posted May 28, 2011
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Filipkiewicz: Foxhack - what does Region Blocked Orange box from Russia Has got to do with it? everyone knows that some Russians keys are blocked and some are not.
I didn't call you a scammer. I'm just saying Valve has deactivated keys purchased at online key retailers (see the two links I posted) - and they might do that to your items as well.

Hey, you're selling the keys? Fine with me. I may not like it but it's what you do.
Posted May 28, 2011
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Filipkiewicz: Foxhack - what does Region Blocked Orange box from Russia Has got to do with it? everyone knows that some Russians keys are blocked and some are not.
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Foxhack: I didn't call you a scammer. I'm just saying Valve has deactivated keys purchased at online key retailers (see the two links I posted) - and they might do that to your items as well.

Hey, you're selling the keys? Fine with me. I may not like it but it's what you do.
Deactivating orange boxes have bring them a lot of trouble with customers and they don't disable keys anymore that come from other countries.

Also this is an example of what you will get

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/image3ug.jpg/

Its the back of the booklet that comes from box, we are not allowed to send it before release date because of the laws, but on the 8th of June we will be able to send so you can pre-load.
Post edited May 28, 2011 by Filipkiewicz
Posted May 28, 2011
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Darkenmal: No and there is no need for language.

I did one of the reviews on there.. and the facebook page has over 300 likes from people all over the world.

it. is. not. fake.

Can that penetrate your thick skull?
So you're one of those people that'll gleefully believe anything that's plastered on the internet as long as you stand to save a few bucks from it.

Oh, and adding Facebook to the mix doesn't really give it any added credibility you know. Neither does registering a new user to pretend you're the site owner.

What a fucking tool.
Posted May 28, 2011
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Has anyone bothered to read the EULA? No.
You may transfer the entire physical copy of pre-recorded Software and accompanying documentation on a permanent basis to another person as long as you retain no copies (including archival or backup copies) of the Software, accompanying documentation, or any portion or component of the Software or accompanying documentation, and the recipient agrees to the terms of this Agreement.
Posted May 28, 2011
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Darling_Jimmy: Has anyone bothered to read the EULA? No.
You may transfer the entire physical copy of pre-recorded Software and accompanying documentation on a permanent basis to another person as long as you retain no copies (including archival or backup copies) of the Software, accompanying documentation, or any portion or component of the Software or accompanying documentation, and the recipient agrees to the terms of this Agreement.
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Darling_Jimmy:
There it is.
Posted May 28, 2011
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Darkenmal: No and there is no need for language.

I did one of the reviews on there.. and the facebook page has over 300 likes from people all over the world.

it. is. not. fake.

Can that penetrate your thick skull?
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stonebro: So you're one of those people that'll gleefully believe anything that's plastered on the internet as long as you stand to save a few bucks from it.

Oh, and adding Facebook to the mix doesn't really give it any added credibility you know. Neither does registering a new user to pretend you're the site owner.

What a fucking tool.
Registering a new user?

Pretend to be the owner?

Omg, It is very rare to see a smart-asses like this, but well too bad that 10 years old kids have access to the internet.

Please just leave.

And by the way chat to me on live chat on my website so you can see that I am the owner and see what kind of idiot you are.

and next time dont call someone "fucking something" because you "think"

The guy who posted it I am very grateful to him that he is trying to help me and I don't get why people are disrespecting this guy.
Post edited May 28, 2011 by Filipkiewicz
Posted May 28, 2011
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Darling_Jimmy: Has anyone bothered to read the EULA? No.
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Kabuto: There it is.
There what is? We already knew that the party selling can't retain a copy, this lends no support to the notion that this is an illegal enterprise.

Typical EULA agreements are chock full of things which may or may not be legal in various places and publishers seem to care very little about over stepping their rights.
Posted May 28, 2011
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stonebro: So you're one of those people that'll gleefully believe anything that's plastered on the internet as long as you stand to save a few bucks from it.

Oh, and adding Facebook to the mix doesn't really give it any added credibility you know. Neither does registering a new user to pretend you're the site owner.

What a fucking tool.
Prove that it's him or shut up already.
Post edited May 28, 2011 by GameRager
Posted May 28, 2011
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Kabuto: There it is.
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hedwards: There what is? We already knew that the party selling can't retain a copy, this lends no support to the notion that this is an illegal enterprise.

Typical EULA agreements are chock full of things which may or may not be legal in various places and publishers seem to care very little about over stepping their rights.
Does that part of the EULA seem unreasonable though? Of all the clauses, that would seem the most reasonable clause to be enforced.
Posted May 28, 2011
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stonebro: So you're one of those people that'll gleefully believe anything that's plastered on the internet as long as you stand to save a few bucks from it.

Oh, and adding Facebook to the mix doesn't really give it any added credibility you know. Neither does registering a new user to pretend you're the site owner.

What a fucking tool.
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GameRager: Prove that it's him or shut up already.
He already posted on here. Do you need more proof?
Post edited May 28, 2011 by Darkenmal
Posted May 28, 2011
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Navagon: If you're buying keys from foreign retail copies then that could be bad news for games that are activated via Steam as you could wind up with that country's version of the game, including language options not including English and the censorship imposed on the game in that region.
Under Steam you can change language. Maybe in Germany may have problems with this, as you say.
Post edited May 28, 2011 by tejozaszaszas
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