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GameRager: Prove that it's him or shut up already.
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Darkenmal: He already posted on here. Do you need more proof?
I am defending you actually. I said he should prove that you and other other account are the same person and not just say that you two are the same person without proof.
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Kabuto: Does that part of the EULA seem unreasonable though? Of all the clauses, that would seem the most reasonable clause to be enforced.
Doesn't matter whether it's reasonable or not. The publisher has neither the right nor the ability to determine whether a particular individual has a copy of the materials. I don't personally see any difference between this and a case where a person registered their CD Key and then later the original was destroyed or stolen.

By following the logic of that clause one would assume that one would have to buy a new copy, and I don't personally see why one should have to.

This is more or less a continuation of the belief that a lot of publishers have that they sell you a license to a particular disc that only exists so long as both the license and the physical copy still exist.
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Darkenmal: He already posted on here. Do you need more proof?
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GameRager: I am defending you actually. I said he should prove that you and other other account are the same person and not just say that you two are the same person without proof.
Well that explained it nicely.
They aren't authorized resellers and it's against the EULA. If that's fine with you because it massages your wallet fine. I do have issue with advertising it to others though. Keep it to yourselves.

Piracy = bad
Shady practice = okay apparently to some
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tejozaszaszas: Under Steam you can change language. Maybe in Germany may have problems with this, as you say.
An EU copy would almost certainly have an English language option. But elsewhere I wouldn't consider it a guarantee. It suppose it depends on where the games are from.
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Kabuto: They aren't authorized resellers and it's against the EULA. If that's fine with you because it massages your wallet fine. I do have issue with advertising it to others though. Keep it to yourselves.

Piracy = bad
Shady practice = okay apparently to some
Um, can you prove they're not authorized? Also can you prove it's 100% against the EULA?

Also offtopic but it'd make me laugh if any here talking about how shady it is had nothing illegal on their systems.(Music/movies/tv show clips/etc)
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Darkenmal: Amazing deal at this site guys.. trust me on this one.. its legit.

I bought homefront and a bunch of games from here.

https://cdkeysdiscount.com/

Edit: Just saw the gaming deals thread.

Damn. lol.
I've seen this message on the website you've linked

"CD Keys Discount Want Duke Nukem Forever but Dont have money? here is your chance to get a free key! Post about cdkeysdiscount on different forums and if you help us to make some sales you will receive a free Duke Nukem Forever Steam key. Just emails us with the links where you have posted and we will check if any buyers came from that...Ver máis
hai 2 horas"

You're not altruistic :-)
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Darkenmal: Amazing deal at this site guys.. trust me on this one.. its legit.

I bought homefront and a bunch of games from here.

https://cdkeysdiscount.com/

Edit: Just saw the gaming deals thread.

Damn. lol.
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tejozaszaszas: I've seen this message on the website you've linked

"CD Keys Discount Want Duke Nukem Forever but Dont have money? here is your chance to get a free key! Post about cdkeysdiscount on different forums and if you help us to make some sales you will receive a free Duke Nukem Forever Steam key. Just emails us with the links where you have posted and we will check if any buyers came from that...Ver máis
hai 2 horas"

You're not altruistic :-)
Heh.

I'm buying it on PS3.
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Darkenmal: Amazing deal at this site guys.. trust me on this one.. its legit.

I bought homefront and a bunch of games from here.

https://cdkeysdiscount.com/

Edit: Just saw the gaming deals thread.

Damn. lol.
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tejozaszaszas: I've seen this message on the website you've linked

"CD Keys Discount Want Duke Nukem Forever but Dont have money? here is your chance to get a free key! Post about cdkeysdiscount on different forums and if you help us to make some sales you will receive a free Duke Nukem Forever Steam key. Just emails us with the links where you have posted and we will check if any buyers came from that...Ver máis
hai 2 horas"

You're not altruistic :-)
I'd advertize as well(although not spam/etc) if it'd get me a free copy of the game.....:D
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tejozaszaszas: I've seen this message on the website you've linked

"CD Keys Discount Want Duke Nukem Forever but Dont have money? here is your chance to get a free key! Post about cdkeysdiscount on different forums and if you help us to make some sales you will receive a free Duke Nukem Forever Steam key. Just emails us with the links where you have posted and we will check if any buyers came from that...Ver máis
hai 2 horas"

You're not altruistic :-)
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GameRager: I'd advertize as well(although not spam/etc) if it'd get me a free copy of the game.....:D
Why not eh?

It's free, so I really have nothing to lose. :P
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Navagon: If you're buying keys from foreign retail copies then that could be bad news for games that are activated via Steam as you could wind up with that country's version of the game, including language options not including English and the censorship imposed on the game in that region.
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Taleroth: And the fact that Valve have removed user access to games in situations where people bought budget region copies for use elsewhere.
That's Valve being assholes, nothing more. It's all fine and good for businesses to take advantage of cheap labor and resources overseas, but the moment a commoner does it the screams of "It's illegal!" begin.
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Sirkenneloth: Like more people are telling isn't not legal. Buying games and selling the keys isn't something publisher want.
They don't want you to buy second hand copies of games, either, and yet it remains "legal".

"Illegal" I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Post edited May 28, 2011 by orcishgamer
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tejozaszaszas: Under Steam you can change language. Maybe in Germany may have problems with this, as you say.
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Navagon: An EU copy would almost certainly have an English language option. But elsewhere I wouldn't consider it a guarantee. It suppose it depends on where the games are from.
I don't know if this is true but I've heard that in Germany there are problems with some censored games, according with this only is available the german version of the game to make censorship effective.
Post edited May 28, 2011 by tejozaszaszas
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Filipkiewicz: ....
Don't sweat it, there's people on this site that believe you destroy the video game market if you buy a second hand copy of game, but then are thrilled when Steam has some great game on sale for 2.50 USD (yeah, like that's making the devs any kind of cash!).

You may or may not be real, but I have no vested interest either way. People on this site are generally very good but we all have our cognitive dissonance and that one is common here.
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hedwards: There what is? We already knew that the party selling can't retain a copy, this lends no support to the notion that this is an illegal enterprise.

Typical EULA agreements are chock full of things which may or may not be legal in various places and publishers seem to care very little about over stepping their rights.
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Kabuto: Does that part of the EULA seem unreasonable though? Of all the clauses, that would seem the most reasonable clause to be enforced.
He doesn't have to adhere to the EULA to resell the box, only to play it.
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Kabuto: They aren't authorized resellers and it's against the EULA. If that's fine with you because it massages your wallet fine. I do have issue with advertising it to others though. Keep it to yourselves.

Piracy = bad
Shady practice = okay apparently to some
Dude, you're flying off the handle about something that isn't even shady. I don't have to agree to the EULA to buy a box and resell it on eBay, only (in theory) to play it. The EULA is not the law, it is not some kind of diving being, and you insisting that only authorized resellers are the only legitimate resellers is laughable. It's that very practice that has led to some of the most anti-competitive practices in the "capitalistic" (yeah right) world.
Post edited May 28, 2011 by orcishgamer
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Taleroth: And the fact that Valve have removed user access to games in situations where people bought budget region copies for use elsewhere.
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orcishgamer: That's Valve being assholes, nothing more. It's all fine and good for businesses to take advantage of cheap labor and resources overseas, but the moment a commoner does it the screams of "It's illegal!" begin.
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Sirkenneloth: Like more people are telling isn't not legal. Buying games and selling the keys isn't something publisher want.
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orcishgamer: They don't want you to buy second hand copies of games, either, and yet it remains "legal".

"Illegal" I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Wow. I agree completely.
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stonebro: So you're one of those people that'll gleefully believe anything that's plastered on the internet as long as you stand to save a few bucks from it.

Oh, and adding Facebook to the mix doesn't really give it any added credibility you know. Neither does registering a new user to pretend you're the site owner.

What a fucking tool.
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GameRager: Prove that it's him or shut up already.
Gonna have to echo this. Stonebro you are coming off as an asshole and randomly trolling isn't helping.